Circle of Greats: 1940 Part 1 Balloting

This post is for voting and discussion in the 35th round of balloting for the Circle of Greats (COG).  This round begins to add those players born in 1940.  Rules and lists are after the jump.

Players born in 1940 will be brought on to the COG eligible list over two rounds — the top half of the alphabet this round and the bottom half of the alphabet next round.  The new group joins the holdovers from previous rounds to comprise the full group eligible to receive your votes this round.

Because there will be, at the same time as this 1940-Part 1 balloting,  a runoff election underway to resolve the tie in the 1941 round, voters will have some unusual choices to make for their ballots this round.  Both Pete Rose and Nolan Ryan are listed as holdovers in the eligible list below, because as of now the start of voting neither has had been inducted.  You may if you wish include either of these guys on your ballot as one of your three choices.  That is a way to help support your choice if he does not succeed in the runoff.  The downside of such a vote is that if your choice does win the runoff, then the ballot spot you used for him will have been used for someone who, it turns out, did not need your vote.  You may want to keep an eye on how the runoff election is going during the week, and check to see if you want to change your vote in this round before the vote-changing deadline on Saturday Wednesday next week.  

If you want to vote for both Rose and Ryan, on the theory that whichever one loses the runoff deserves your vote, you need not use two ballot spots to do so.  You can instead cast a vote for “Rose/Ryan” or “Ryan/Rose”, which I will treat as a vote for “whoever loses the runoff”.  You will then still be able to include two other names on your ballot.  In counting the votes at the end of the balloting, all the votes cast for “Rose/Ryan” or “Ryan/Rose” will be added to the votes for the  one of those two guys who loses the runoff.  At the end of the voting this round, all votes that were cast for the guy who turns out to have won the runoff will be deleted from the vote count, all the vote percentages will be re-calculated based on the deletion of those votes, and the results will then be applied as they always are.    

As usual, the new group of 1940-born players, in order to join the eligible list, must have played at least 10 seasons in the major leagues or generated at least 20 Wins Above Replacement (“WAR”, as calculated by baseball-reference.com, and for this purpose meaning 20 total WAR for everyday players and 20 pitching WAR for pitchers).

Each submitted ballot, if it is to be counted, must include three and only three eligible players (with the special exception mentioned above that one of your three votes can be cast in the form of “Ryan/Rose” or “Rose/Ryan”).  The one player who appears on the most ballots cast in the round (after the special adjustment is made eliminating the votes for the winner of the runoff vote) is inducted into the Circle of Greats.  Players who fail to win induction but appear on half or more of the (post-runoff adjustment) ballots that are cast win four added future rounds of ballot eligibility. Players who appear on 25% or more of the (post runoff-adjustment) ballots cast, but less than 50%, earn two added future rounds of ballot eligibility.  Any other player in the top 9 (including ties) in ballot appearances, or who appears on at least 10% of the (post runoff-adjustment) ballots, wins one additional round of ballot eligibility.

All voting for this round closes at 11:00 PM EST EDT on Friday, November 8 Sunday, November 10, while changes to previously cast ballots are allowed until 11:00 PM EST EDT Wednesday, November 6 Saturday, November 9.

If you’d like to follow the vote tally, and/or check to make sure I’ve recorded your vote correctly, you can see my ballot-counting spreadsheet for this round here: COG 1940 Round 1 Vote Tally.  I’ll be updating the spreadsheet periodically with the latest votes.  Initially, there is a row in the spreadsheet for every voter who has cast a ballot in any of the past rounds, but new voters are entirely welcome — new voters will be added to the spreadsheet as their ballots are submitted.  Also initially, there is a column for each of the holdover players; additional player columns from the new born-in-1940 group will be added to the spreadsheet as votes are cast for them.

Choose your three players from the lists below of eligible players.  The 13 current holdovers (including Rose and Ryan) are listed in order of the number of future rounds (including this one) through which they are assured eligibility, and alphabetically when the future eligibility number is the same.  The new group of 1940 birth-year guys are listed below in order of the number of seasons each played in the majors, and alphabetically among players with the same number of seasons played.  In total there were 30 players born in 1940 who met the “10 seasons played or 20 WAR” minimum requirement.  15 of those are being added to the eligible list this round (alphabetically from Jack Aker through Ellie Hendricks).  The 15 players further down in the alphabet will be added next round.

Holdovers:
Nolan Ryan (eligibility guaranteed for 12 rounds)
Lou Whitaker (eligibility guaranteed for 10 rounds)
John Smoltz (eligibility guaranteed for 8 rounds)
Jim Palmer (eligibility guaranteed for 6 rounds)
Bobby Grich (eligibility guaranteed for 4 rounds)
Craig Biggio (eligibility guaranteed for 3 rounds)
Edgar Martinez (eligibility guaranteed for 3 rounds)
Kenny Lofton (eligibility guaranteed for 2 rounds)
Pete Rose (eligibility guaranteed for 2 rounds)
Dick Allen (eligibility guaranteed for this round only)
Roberto Alomar (eligibility guaranteed for this round only)
Eddie Murray (eligibility guaranteed for this round only)
Ryne Sandberg (eligibility guaranteed for this round only)

Everyday Players (born in 1940, ten or more seasons played in the major leagues or at least 20 WAR):
Willie Davis
Tommy Harper
Larry Brown
Danny Cater
Elrod Hendricks
Gene Alley
Glenn Beckert
John Bateman
Horace Clarke

Pitchers (born in 1940, ten or more seasons played in the major leagues or at least 20 WAR):
Woodie Fryman
Dick Ellsworth
Tony Cloninger
Jack Aker
Bill Hands
Jim Hannan

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Mike
Mike
11 years ago

Rose/Ryan
Jim Palmer
John Smoltz

Bryan O'Connor
Editor
11 years ago
Reply to  Mike

John Smoltz is winning. Let’s hope for a week-long site crash.

Bryan O'Connor
Editor
11 years ago

Most Wins Above Average, excluding negative seasons:

Rose 44.2
Grich 43.6
Whitaker 42.7
Martinez 41.3
Smoltz 40.1
Lofton 39.3
Ryan 39.1
Sandberg 38.8
Alomar 36.8
Biggio 36.3
Palmer 36.0
Allen 35.9
Murray 34.9

Nobody new is worth a look.

Grich. Martinez. Smoltz.

Voomo Zanzibar
11 years ago
Reply to  Bryan O'Connor

Willie Davis,

3rd most games played at CF,

104 Rfield,

60.7 WAR
________

Maybe doesn’t make the cut, but certainly
worth a look.

Bryan O'Connor
Editor
11 years ago
Reply to  Voomo Zanzibar

Good call, Voomo. Davis was worth 27.3 positive WAA over 18 seasons. Probably not HoF-worthy, and certainly not CoG-worthy, but better than Jim Rice or Orlando Cepeda.

e pluribus munu
e pluribus munu
11 years ago
Reply to  Voomo Zanzibar

Bill James did an extensive analysis of Willie Davis in his Historical Baseball Abstract. He sees Davis as particularly punished in reputation by the effect of mid-’60s ball on his stats, which led people (including me) to regard him as “a disappointment,” when in fact he was an excellent player.

That said, James does not rank him with the HoF center fielders (except outliers like Little Poison). Vada Pinson and Cesar Cedeno, for example, rank considerably higher.

Dr. Doom
Dr. Doom
11 years ago

The “Rose/Ryan” option is a nice one. Thanks. It seems to me that you could have also just held both of them off the ballot for 1940.1, and applied the loser player to 1940.2 instead. But this way will work fine, I think. Actually, looking at the ballot, I’m thinking the runoff is going to end up being moot; I don’t think there’s a strong enough new candidate to be elected, so I think the loser of the runoff will probably win 1940.1, so we’ll end up with both elected, anyway. But it’s fun to finally have a tie! Rose/Ryan… Read more »

Dr. Doom
Dr. Doom
11 years ago
Reply to  Dr. Doom

Also, last round, John Autin suggested that we find a way to break the 2B logjam. I have a way. Everyone should just rank these 2B in MY order. We can all agree to that, right?

I have Grich, Sandberg, Alomar, Biggio, and Whitaker in that order. So, JA, I think that’s how we break the logjam. Any takers?

Voomo Zanzibar
11 years ago
Reply to  Dr. Doom

I can see Whitaker at the bottom, on the argument that he was never an offensive force. I can see Biggio next, because he wasn’t strictly a second baseman. But Ryno and Alomar? So very close. I stare at the numbers, juggling apples and oranges, and barely come away with a conclusion. I’ve chosen Alomar because Sandberg became an icon at age 24. A baseball God anointed by the media frenzy of Chicago playoff baseball. And he spent his whole career there, with some tasty home/road splits. He was a great one, but those single-franchise white guys (that includes Gwynn)… Read more »

Dr. Doom
Dr. Doom
11 years ago
Reply to  Voomo Zanzibar

Like many of the people here, I have a formula that I use. I take all the player’s seasons via WAR, and sort them from highest to lowest. The top season is multiplied by 1, the next season by .9, the next by .81, the next by .729 (in other words, .9^0, .9^1, .9^2, .9^3, etc.). Then I add it all together. At the end I multiply by phi (1.618) so that it gets close to their career WAR. If they had a great peak, my number ends up higher. If they had a lower peak, the number ends up… Read more »

Paul E
Paul E
11 years ago
Reply to  Dr. Doom

Doom:
I like it. It makes sense – but, in the same sense that by the eye test I would probably rank them somewhat similarly:

Sandberg, Grich, Alomar, Biggio, Whitaker. I just believe that Sandberg was, at one point in his career, the best player in the NL. In light of the 5-tool thing, I would put Whitaker last. Biggio got HBP’ed a lot and that was a big part of his “skill set”, but that big plastic thing on his elbow should have been “outlawed”….

Paul E
Paul E
11 years ago
Reply to  Voomo Zanzibar

Voom:
Re “single franchise white guys” in my lifetime:

2B Biggio
RF Kaline
CF Mantle
3B Schmidt
LF Yaz
1B Bagwell
C Bench
SS Ripken…or Yount

OF Gwynn (reserve)

The pitching staff deteriorates after Palmer…. 🙁

no statistician but
no statistician but
11 years ago
Reply to  Paul E

I agree with birtelcom.

Batting included, the WAR per inning pitched is

Koufax: .02108
Drysdale: .01958
Ford: .01810
Palmer: .01757.

Using pitching WAR only, Koufax leaps way ahead, and Drysdale, Palmer, and Ford are all at .017+ in that order.

A nice rotation, to my way of thinking, two righties, two lefties.

Speaking as a old white guy, of course.

aweb
aweb
11 years ago

Grich, Whitaker, Palmer.

Seems kind of unfair to the Ryan/Rose pair that the loser doesn’t get to directly go against this new crop. This is a weird method of tiebreaking – why not just do the runoff and push everything back a week? I don’t want to vote for Rose, I would want to vote for Ryan.

RJ
RJ
11 years ago
Reply to  aweb

If I understand correctly you can vote for just Ryan, but if he wins the run-off then only two thirds of your ballot will be counted, with the Ryan bit being ignored.

aweb
aweb
11 years ago
Reply to  birtelcom

Ah, vote change then. Thanks!

Grich, Whitaker, Ryan.

bstar
bstar
11 years ago
Reply to  birtelcom

Excellent job handling this, birtelcom.

Ed
Ed
11 years ago
Reply to  birtelcom

BTW, I take full responsibility for this mess. After Jason Z tied things up by casting his first ballot in 4 months, I was prepared to untie things with my first ballot in many months. Unfortunately, I stupidly thought the voting ended at midnight….

Ed
Ed
11 years ago
Reply to  birtelcom

Thanks! I was waiting to make my comeback for when my vote could make a difference but I screwed that up!!!

Hartvig
Hartvig
11 years ago
Reply to  birtelcom

It occurred to me today that segregating Rose & Ryan in a run off would be grossly unfair to the loser.

Very clever way you have come up with to handle it.

e pluribus munu
e pluribus munu
11 years ago

Smoltz, Whitaker, Palmer

wx
wx
11 years ago

Jim Palmer, Edgar Martinez, Bobby Grich

Voomo Zanzibar
11 years ago

___________
Rose / Ryan

Kenny Lofton (a bit better than Willie Davis)

Eddie Murray

Chris C
Chris C
11 years ago

Same as the last two rounds
2B Craig Biggio
2B Roberto Alomar
2B Ryne Sandberg

koma
koma
11 years ago

Rose/Ryan, John Smoltz, Craig Biggio

Bix
Bix
11 years ago

Rose/Ryan, Palmer, Whitaker

donburgh
donburgh
11 years ago

Biggio, Lofton, Alley

Bryan O'Connor
Editor
11 years ago
Reply to  donburgh

Donburgh, I’d never heard of Gene Alley until I just looked him up. He had some very good seasons, but I’m curious to hear what enticed you about his candidacy.

David Horwich
David Horwich
11 years ago

Alomar, Murray, Sandberg

Gary Bateman
Gary Bateman
11 years ago

Alomar, Smoltz, Palmer

J.R.
J.R.
11 years ago

Palmer, Grich, Biggio.

Dr. Doom
Dr. Doom
11 years ago

birtelcom, I hate to ask for a rule change at the 11th hour (later, actually), but wouldn’t it make sense if we allowed changes to the ballot until 11:00 on Saturday, and kept the ballot open until Sunday? Then, the people who really wanted to could wait until the results of the runoff were complete, and THEN change their votes if necessary. It would only give one day to do that, but at least people would have the chance, particularly for those who would vote for one of the two on the runoff, but not the other. I know that… Read more »

oneblankspace
11 years ago
Reply to  birtelcom

Before this ballot expires Daylight Saving Time will have ended in the US. So the times mentioned should be 11:00 EST (or midnight EST if you prefer).

Josh
Josh
11 years ago

Rose/Ryan, Jim Palmer, John Smoltz

JEV
JEV
11 years ago

Rose, Palmer, Biggio

Ed
Ed
11 years ago

Tony Cloninger has more career hitting WAR (3.0) than he does pitching WAR (2.1). That has to be quite rare for someone of his career length and someone who at least had superficial success (back to back seasons of 19-14 and 24-11 with a career winning percentage of .538).

e pluribus munu
e pluribus munu
11 years ago
Reply to  Ed

Great catch, Ed. I’d bet that the 0.9 difference or more is entirely attributable to one month (June 16 – July 14, 1966), 26 PA, when Cloninger became one of the most fearsome hitters in the game (.423/.423/.962), surrounding his double grand-slam 9-RBI game on July 3. (He was a .173/.208/.218 hitter in 91 PA the rest of that season; and .181/.202/.247 in 647 PA lifetime over 12 seasons, apart from that super stretch)

Ed
Ed
11 years ago

EPM – I’d actually extend Cloninger’s hot streak out till August 2nd which adds an additional 5-13 with 1 BB, 1 HBP, a double and a homerun.

BTW, years ago, I worked at a university with a relative of Cloninger (a cousin if memory serves me correctly).

e pluribus munu
e pluribus munu
11 years ago
Reply to  Ed

My thought was to catch the highest-density WAR (the good kind) with a chance of rising above 0.9; it may be that the extra three weeks are necessary for that, and they do constitute the Complete Cloninger Hotstreak History.

I imagine the cousin was tenured on the strength of a string of articles all published in one year.

Dr. Doom
Dr. Doom
11 years ago

It’s comments like this one that make me miss the “like” button we used to have. “Like.”

e pluribus munu
e pluribus munu
11 years ago

Thanks, Doc. (How’s the Dr. thing going for you?)

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
11 years ago
Reply to  Ed

Carl Scheib had a batting WAR of 3.0 and a pitching WAR of 0.2. He had an 11 year career with a 45-65 W-L record. He had 14 wins in 1948.

John Autin
Editor
11 years ago
Reply to  Ed

Tony Cloninger, meet Adam Eaton. (The pitcher, that is.) Also Carl Scheib, Micah Owings, Blue Moon Odom, Erv Brame and Tim Lollar.

Those are the 7 modern pitchers with at least 2.5 offensive WAR, and more offensive WAR than pitching WAR.

Erv Brame went 52-37 in a short career with the Pirates, including 33-19 in 1929-30. He also batted .306, with 75 RBI in 396 ABs.

oneblankspace
11 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

Blue Moon pitched the last 4 innings of a no-hitter for the White Sox, the last one for the Sox before Joe Cowley no-hit California 7-1.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
11 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

Brame’s 75 RBI in 396 AB is the second highest career total for a player with less than 400 AB. Only Mandy Brooks with 78 RBI in 397 AB did better.

KalineCountry Ron
11 years ago

Lou Whitaker
Jim Palmer
Bobby Grich

JasonZ
11 years ago

Ed, it was John Z not me.

You confused your Z’s.

It is true that I haven’t voted since the Larry Walker election.

It is also true I may jump back in.

Not yet though.

Ed
Ed
11 years ago
Reply to  JasonZ

Oops apologies Jason Z! 🙂

Hartvig
Hartvig
11 years ago

Sandberg, Whitaker, Palmer

Dr. Remulak
Dr. Remulak
11 years ago

Biggio, Smoltz, Palmer.

Jeff Harris
Jeff Harris
11 years ago

Whitaker, Smoltz, Palmer

Artie Z
Artie Z
11 years ago

Edgar, Alomar, Murray …

Andy
Andy
11 years ago

Rose/Ryan
Palmer
Smoltz

PaulE
PaulE
11 years ago

Allen
Alomar
Sandberg

Darien
11 years ago

Biggio, Lofton, and Rose/Ryan.

T-Bone
T-Bone
11 years ago

There was a radio show in the Los Angeles area that had sports trivia contests in the late eighties. Call in, get it right and win a prize.

The question was about Tony Cloninger’s two grand slams. Who was the only player……
I called in and answered it. As they asked me how I knew the answer, I realized I had previously won a prize within the time frame where you can’t call in and win again, so I answered. ” I am Tony Cloninger!” and hung up. Oops.

T-Bone
T-Bone
11 years ago

Ryne Sandberg
Dick Allen
Bobby Grich

MJ
MJ
11 years ago

Lou Whitaker, Bobby Grich, Nolan Ryan.

GrandyMan
GrandyMan
11 years ago

Rose/Ryan, Whitaker, Smoltz

JasonZ
11 years ago

According to WAR…

Nolan Ryan had his best season in 1977, 7.8.

Bill Hands had his best season in 1969, 8.4.

Dr. Doom
Dr. Doom
11 years ago
Reply to  JasonZ

Reg’lar ol’ pitcher wins:

Bill Hand, 1969: 20
Nolan Ryan, 1977: 19

Hand was one win ahead, so he’s (roughly) one win ahead by WAR.* Makes sense.

*Obviously, it doesn’t actually work that way; I just thought it was interesting.

RonG
RonG
11 years ago

Palmer, Grich, Biggio

Nick Pain
Nick Pain
11 years ago

Ryan/Rose, Whitaker, Santo

Hartvig
Hartvig
11 years ago
Reply to  Nick Pain

1940 is a split ballot and Ron Santo isn’t on Part 1.

Nick Pain
Nick Pain
11 years ago
Reply to  Hartvig

Thanks Hartvig, I just was looking over my spreadsheets of votes and thought to myself, “I doubt Ron Santo was in the first half.” As such I’d like to change Santo to Eddie Murray.

Mike HBC
Mike HBC
11 years ago

Rose/Ryan, Palmer, and Smoltzie.

brp
brp
11 years ago

Grich
Lofton
Rose, specifically, understanding the 2/3 ballot thing.

mosc
mosc
11 years ago

Ryan/Palmer/Biggio.

If Ryan wins, which seems unlikely, I’d want it changed to Smoltz.

Abbott
Abbott
11 years ago

Biggio
Grich
Allen

Kirk
Kirk
11 years ago

Smoltz, Alomar & Palmer

Insert Name Here
Insert Name Here
11 years ago

Here I go with my usual “why don’t you include these guys?” thing: 1. Kenny Lofton (6.7 WAR/162 during 8-yr peak of 1992-99) 2. Bobby Grich (6.6 WAR/162 during 12-yr peak of 1972-83) 3. Jim Palmer (5.9 WAR/162 during 10-yr peak of 1969-78) Ranking of others: 4. Dick Allen (6.6 WAR/162 during 9-yr peak of 1964-72) 5. Ryne Sandberg (6.2 WAR/162 during 9-yr peak of 1984-92) 6. Craig Biggio (5.8 WAR/162 during 9-yr peak of 1991-99) 7. Lou Whitaker (5.5 WAR/162 during 15-yr peak of 1979-93) 8. Pete Rose (5.5 WAR/162 during 12-yr peak of 1965-76) 9. Eddie Murray (5.7… Read more »

mosc
mosc
11 years ago

How does Kenny Lofton beat Bobby Grich? Because 6.7 > 6.6? If that’s the case, how does Jim Palmer beat Dick Allen? If you’re multiplying the peak out in terms of total WAR or something (5.9×10 ~ 6.6×9), Whitaker jumps way out front not 7th. Your ranking does not seem directly determined by the numbers of WAR/162 over a given period.

Insert Name Here
Insert Name Here
11 years ago
Reply to  mosc

Mehh…it’s complicated. I have tiebreakers and things that I may have explained somewhere in the past involving WAA, how many times longer player A’s peak is than player B’s, etc…admittedly Lofton and Grich are almost interchangeable, it doesn’t really matter when they’re both above all the others, and it’s all going to be forgotten when shoo-in candidates start becoming an annual thing in the 1930s rounds. Yaz, for example, edges out both of them with 6.7 WAR/162 over 12 years (1962-73).

Francisco
Francisco
11 years ago

Ryan/Rose
Murray
Palmer

ATarwerdi96
ATarwerdi96
11 years ago

Edgar Martinez, Bobby Grich, Lou Whitaker

Nadig
Nadig
11 years ago

Martinez, Lofton, Rose/Ryan.

Doug
Doug
11 years ago

Allen, Lofton, Martinez

Luis Gomez
Luis Gomez
11 years ago

Ryan/Rose
Martinez/Allen
Alomar/Sandberg

Nah, just kidding.
Ryan, Martinez, Alomar.

Hartvig
Hartvig
11 years ago
Reply to  Luis Gomez

And to think that only last night I was sort of regretting my vote for Whitaker instead of Martinez because Edgar only had 3 votes and he had been on my ballot for the last dozen or more elections where he has been eligible. Now it’s Sandberg who has me (a little) worried. I do think that 1940-2 is where we are going to start to see either some accumulated eligibility or holdover players themselves start to disappear. Not only will the Rose/Ryan (or possibly Palmer) loser still be on the ballot but I’d guess that Santo will either join… Read more »

Luis Gomez
Luis Gomez
11 years ago
Reply to  Hartvig

I´ve voted a few times for Whitaker, because I think he could make a good HOFer. When Ryan appear on the ballot, I had to drop one of my favorites.

--bill
--bill
11 years ago

Palmer, Grich, Smoltz

Phil
11 years ago

Haven’t read up on how this vote reconciles with the runoff, so I’ll just keep Ryan and/or Rose off. So: Alomar, Palmer, Edgar (back in the news, sort of, after Ortiz’s World Series—my contention is that Ortiz will not go into the HOF unless Martinez goes in also).

Hub Kid
Hub Kid
11 years ago

Dick Allen, Lou Whitaker, Bobby Grich

John Z
John Z
11 years ago

Two things I find mind boggling about the 1940 Ballot Part 1. First, that Willie Davis WAR is second only to Ron Santo and more then his peers Willie Stargell and Joe Torre? Second is why were the ballots split like this with the likes of Ron Santo, Stargell, Torre, for position players and Luis Tiant and Mickey Lolich the pitchers of note born in 1940? But anyway, no more questions. My Ballot:
Ryan/Rose
Grich
Murray

Hartvig
Hartvig
11 years ago
Reply to  John Z

“Second is why were the ballots split like this with the likes of Ron Santo, Stargell, Torre, for position players and Luis Tiant and Mickey Lolich the pitchers of note born in 1940?”

I believe if you take another look at all of the players eligible on Part 1 of 1940 the answer will soon become apparent: Aker-Brown-Clarke-Davis-Ellsworth-Fryman….

Hartvig
Hartvig
11 years ago
Reply to  birtelcom

Now that I think about it the split rounds should keep the ballots from getting over-crowded during most of the 30’s so it might not be as tough on our holdovers as I had first imagined- at least until the Class of 31 comes along. I would say that anyone who is still around after that is a fairly safe bet to get in at least at some point.

oneblankspace
11 years ago

Although tempted to vote Fryman, who had ERA/ERA+ of 1.88/187 in 1981, I’ll go with

[x] Craig, Lord Biggio, earl of Doubles
[x] Dick, Lord Richie, viscount of Allen
[x] Eddie, Lord Murray, Baronet of Sinister and Dexter

I am feeling a little noble tonight. I also considered Lord Sandberg of Wrigleyville, but I figure that others were more likely to vote to keep him on the ballot.