Quiz – Baseball Oracle (solved)

Last season, Omar Vizquel retired after a 24-year major league career and many notable achievements. But, probably one you weren’t aware of is this – Vizquel is the only player to bat against both Jerry Reuss and Yu Darvish.

The search for such morsels of obscurity can be aided by consulting the Oracle of Baseball, one of the tools available on B-R in its “Frivolities” section. The tool lets you find linkages across baseball history from one player to another, based on common teammates. Thus, if you were to ask the Oracle to link Deacon White with Buster Posey, you could get an answer like:

Deacon White	played with	Frank Scheibeck	for the 1888 Detroit Wolverines	  
Frank Scheibeck	played with	Charley O'Leary	for the 1906 Detroit Tigers	  
Charley O'Leary	played with	Bruce Campbell	for the 1934 St. Louis Browns	  
Bruce Campbell	played with	Lou Boudreau	for the 1938 Cleveland Indians	  
Lou Boudreau	played with	Minnie Minoso	for the 1949 Cleveland Indians	  
Minnie Minoso	played with	Rich Gossage	for the 1976 Chicago White Sox	  
Rich Gossage	played with	Randy Johnson	for the 1994 Seattle Mariners	  
Randy Johnson	played with	Buster Posey	for the 2009 San Francisco Giants

This quiz is something like playing the Baseball Oracle. With a few wrinkles. Audience participation is required. Lots of answers (at least twenty-one) for you to shout out as you find them.

Thanks to our readers for identifying twenty-four correct answers to the quiz, and congratulations to RJ for finding the most correct answers. Answers are after the jump.

For this quiz, there are 55 players listed alphabetically below. I’ve done a little sleuthing and I’m pretty confident that, using only the players in the quiz, there are at least twenty-one true assertions that can be stated as:

<player 1> is the only player to play with/against both <player 2> and <player 3>

A few things to note:

  • The three players in each assertion must be different
  • Assertions can link players either as teammates or as opponents
  • The linkage must be exclusive – there can be no other players (whether in the quiz or not) who can be substituted for <player 1> and who also have the stated relationship with <player 2> and <player 3> (thereby disproving the assertion) 
  • In the twenty-one assertions I’ve found, each of the 55 players in the quiz is referenced at least once

Proof that the assertion is true:

  • Assertion that a player played with another is that they played on the same team at the same time; if no common box score, then both must have played in games for that team no more than a month apart; or, if boxscores unavailable (pre-1916), then on a reasonable balance of probabilities
  • Assertion that a player played against another is supported by a box score; or by proximate boxscores (i.e. player was likely on lineup card, if not in game) ; or by a reasonable balance of probabilities if boxscores are unavailable (pre-1916)
  • Assertion that the relationship is exclusive is supported by logical inference (e.g. span of careers, teams played for, leagues played in) or absence of linking boxscores for alternative players not excluded by logical inference

So, here are the quiz players, mostly recognizable names. Call out your answers as you find them. Don’t need to provide the proofs (you can make educated guesses), but I will comment (and others can too) to disprove false assertions.

The highlighted names above have not yet been mentioned in any correct assertions. Players with names crossed out are no longer part of the quiz (owing to author’s error).

Here are the answers in tabular form. How many more can you find?

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Chris C
Chris C
11 years ago

Working with my Red Sox.

Jim Rice only played with Yaz and Ellis Buurks.

Josh
Josh
11 years ago
Reply to  Chris C

Can’t be that. Wade Boggs, Dwight Evans and Bob Stanley are three I can think of that also fit.

Chris C
Chris C
11 years ago
Reply to  Josh

My bad. I guess I didn’t read closely enough. I though it was only using players from this list.

David W
David W
11 years ago

Lou Brock played against Stan Musial and Jesse Orosco.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
11 years ago

Elmer Valo is the only player to play against Grove and Yaz, I hope.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
11 years ago

It looks like Trout and Vizquel will be linked to some player who played until at least 1989 or later.

RJ
RJ
11 years ago

It’s Jim Rice.

Chris C
Chris C
11 years ago

How about Yaz played against Julio Franco and Early Wynn?

RJ
RJ
11 years ago

Only Jim Kaat played against both Dave Philley and Jesse Orosco.

RJ
RJ
11 years ago
Reply to  Doug

OK, let’s try again. Jim Kaat against Ted Williams (in Kaat’s debut no less) and Jesse Orosco.

RJ
RJ
11 years ago
Reply to  RJ

It was his third career game actually. Still…

donburgh
donburgh
11 years ago

Tommy John was the player to be teammates of Early Wynn and Al Leiter.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
11 years ago

Haven’t made a complete check bu how about Alexander-Hornsby-DiMaggio?

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
11 years ago
Reply to  Doug

A better answer would be Mathewson-Hornsby-DiMaggio.

Chris C
Chris C
11 years ago

How about – only Ellis Burks was a teammate of Jim Rice and Barry Bonds.

Chris C
Chris C
11 years ago

How about – Deron Johnson was a teammate of Yogi Berra and Jim Rice.

donburgh
donburgh
11 years ago

Burleigh Grimes was the only teammate of both Wagner and Vaughan.

Mike K
Mike K
11 years ago

Pete Rose played against Stan Musial (’63) and Barry Bonds (’86).

Chris C
Chris C
11 years ago

Dave Philley was the only teammate of Yaz and Ted Lyons.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
11 years ago

Here’s one that’s not on your list: Babe Ruth-Al Benton-Mickey Mantle. Benton is the only player to pitch against both of them.

Artie Z.
Artie Z.
11 years ago

Charlie Grimm played with Phil Cavarretta and Nap Lajoie.

Artie Z.
Artie Z.
11 years ago

Nolan Ryan played against Eddie Mathews (1966) and Jim Edmonds (1993).

Artie Z.
Artie Z.
11 years ago

Phil Niekro played with Spahn and Glavine.

Artie Z.
Artie Z.
11 years ago

Mickey Vernon played against Moe Berg (1939) and Willie Davis (1960).

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
11 years ago

I’ll try Zimmer-Wagner-Grimes

RJ
RJ
11 years ago

Willie Mays-Dave Winfield-Jim Edmonds?

RJ
RJ
11 years ago

Cy Young-Pete Alexander-Wally Berger.

donburgh
donburgh
11 years ago

Tug McGraw as a teammate of Warren Spahn and Julio Franco

Artie Z.
Artie Z.
11 years ago
Reply to  Doug

C’mon now – I’ve got 4 of those! You’re missing the Spahn-Niekro-Glavine connection.

RJ
RJ
11 years ago

Slaughter-McCovey-Orosco.

RJ
RJ
11 years ago

I’ll also try Valo-Brock-Orosco.

RJ
RJ
11 years ago

Less certain on this one: Ruth-Cavarretta-Kaline.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
11 years ago

Valo-Brock-Orosco

RJ
RJ
11 years ago

Spahn-Carlton-Burks.

Chris C
Chris C
11 years ago

How about Dave Winfield as a teammate of Tommy John and Omar Vizquel.

Chris C
Chris C
11 years ago
Reply to  Doug

It’s a real stretch admittedly. Their careers were fairly close together. Not a big deal if it takes a lot of effort on your part to check that.

Chris C
Chris C
11 years ago
Reply to  Doug

Aha, how about Winfield with Vizquel and McCovey!

Chris C
Chris C
11 years ago

Dave Wallace appears to have been a teammate of Chief Zimmer and Charlie Grimm

Chris C
Chris C
11 years ago
Reply to  Doug

Where the heck did I get Dave from?

RJ
RJ
11 years ago

Charlie Grimm being teammates with both Bobby Wallace and Phil Cavarreta?

Luis Gomez
Luis Gomez
11 years ago

Mays played against Elmer Valo and Dave Winfield.

RJ
RJ
11 years ago
Reply to  Doug

I count six for me Doug? Not that I’m getting competitive…

Phil
11 years ago

Not part of the quiz/game going on, but just wanted to point out that you can get from Old Billy Hamilton to New Billy Hamilton in eight steps, passing through Bobo Newsom and Tommy John (but not Minnie Minoso).

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
11 years ago

Gehrig and Williams played in one game together. Perhaps we should look for a player who predates Gehrig or postdates Williams.

RJ
RJ
11 years ago

That’ll be Deron Johnson. All credit to RC there.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
11 years ago

That game was played on 4-20-39, opening day and Williams’ debut. Yankees won 2-0. Also playing in that game were Jimmie Foxx, Bobby Doerr, Joe Cronin, LP Lefty Grove, Joe DiMaggio (his first opening day game played I believe),Bill Dickey, Joe Gordon and WP Red Ruffing. Gehrig was 0-4 with 2 GDP and an error. Ted was 1-4 with a double and 2 strikeouts.

Chris C
Chris C
11 years ago

Willie Mays played with Tug McGraw and Dave Philley. Might be a stretch.

Chris C
Chris C
11 years ago

Lou Brock played against Elmer Valo and Jesse Orosco.

RJ
RJ
11 years ago
Reply to  Chris C

That’s the third one of us that’s tried that 🙂 Apparently it also holds true for McCovey in place of Brock.

Chris C
Chris C
11 years ago
Reply to  RJ

Funny. I guess I should look at the other guesses.

RJ
RJ
11 years ago

I’ll take a final crack at this: Grove-Valo-Brock.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
11 years ago
Reply to  RJ

It looks like Ted Lyons alsoplayed against Valo.

donburgh
donburgh
11 years ago

Winfield played against Mays and Edmonds

Mike K
Mike K
11 years ago

Willie Mays played against Joe DiMaggio (’51 WS) and Dave Winfield (’73).

mosc
mosc
11 years ago
Reply to  Mike K

quick, now somebody name somebody, preferably a HOF CF-er who played against Winfield and Trout!

mosc
mosc
11 years ago
Reply to  mosc

I think I can answer my own question that Andy Pettitte pitched to both but it’s not unique. Darryn Oliver did too, maybe another old pitcher I’m forgetting.

wx
wx
11 years ago

Playing around with the oracle shows two players named “Eland” and “Boland” in the least connected category. What’s up with them – I assume they aren’t real?

Questionable Morals
Questionable Morals
11 years ago

Bobby Murcer is the only player to play with both Micky Mantle and Don Mattingly.