Division Series Wrap-Up

Wildcard teams were the big winners in the just concluded League Division series that left the best regular season teams (and their fans) asking “What just happened?” More after the jump.

In 2021, the 106 win Dodgers finished second in their division and were thus forced into a one game playoff against a Cardinals team that had won only 90 games. Los Angeles won that game and the following LDS against the Giants team that had beaten the Dodgers for first place in the NL West.

However, the seeming injustice of putting a team as dominant as those Dodgers into an immediate one-or-done matchup prompted MLB to expand the wildcard qualifiers to three per league, and to extend the wildcard round from a single game to a best-of-three series. That move made for more exciting Septembers with far more teams in the hunt for a post-season berth. But, I doubt that MLB expected the post-season impact that we’ve seen in the first two seasons of the expanded playoff format.

Last season, two wildcard qualifiers were matched in the NLCS while the 110 win Dodgers watched at home. Ditto for this season, as division winners lost all four division series for just the third time since 2005. Three of those losing teams won 100+ regular season games, just the second time that’s happened in the division era (the first was in 2002, when the Angels beat the Giants in the first all-wildcard World Series).

Braves vs. Phillies

A rematch of last season’s NLDS produced the same result, with Philadelphia again prevailing in four games. The Phillies were in control throughout, trailing after only two innings in the entire series. In game one, Atlanta was shut out at home for the first time all season, a scoreless streak that extended through the first five innings of game 2, before the Braves mounted a comeback from 4-0 down for their lone victory. In the two games in Philadelphia, the Phillies out-homered the visitors by a count of 9 to 1, including a post-season record-tying half-dozen in game 3. Nick Castellanos led the home side with a pair of dingers in each game, the first such back-to-back in post-season history.

Dodgers vs. Diamondbacks

For the second straight season, a 100 win Dodger squad faced off against a division opponent that had finished a distant second. Last year, it was the Dodger bullpen that succumbed to a relentless Padre attack. This time, LA’s badly depleted starting staff was no match for D-Back bats, pitching less than 5 innings over 3 games and surrendering 13 of Arizona’s 19 runs. Three starters each allowing 3+ runs in less than 3 IP is a record for a division series of any length, and marks just the second time any team has started any post-season series that way (Quiz: which was the first team to do this? Hint: they won the series).

Mookie Betts and Freddie Freeman, who together accounted for almost half of the Dodger team batting WAR for the season, were held to a combined 1 for 21 for the series, as LA bats fell silent, homering just once in the series, after launching 50% more homers (249 to 166) than Arizona in the regular season. The D-Backs clubbed 9 round-trippers in the series, its high-water mark for the season, having never exceeded 7 homers in any 3-game span in the regular campaign (in comparison, LA homered once or not at all in only 9 of 160 possible 3-game spans, with only two of those 9 spans against one opponent).

Astros vs. Twins

Minnesota entered this series with a very large monkey off its back, having broken its record 18-game post-season losing streak in dispatching Toronto in the wildcard round. The sweep of the Blue Jays followed a hot September (18-9 record) so, after splitting the first two games in Houston, Minnesota had some confidence of upsetting the defending champs, heading home to Target Field where the Twins had posted a 47-34 record for the season. The Astros, however, had an even better away record at 51-30, and it was they who held true to form, holding the home side to just three runs over two games to claim the series in 4 games.

In game 1, the Twins closed a 5-run deficit with a 7th inning four-spot on back-to-back blasts off of Astro reliever Hector Nerris, but Houston immediately responded on Yordan Alvarez‘s second HR to seal the game for the Astros. In game 3, Cristian Javier flummoxed the Twins, allowing just one hit in 5 shutout innings. It was Javier’s third post-season start and third time posting those same totals, thereby extending his own record streak of such starts to begin a post-season career. In game 4, Edouard Julien‘s 6th inning blast pulled the Twins to within one, but that would be their last hit of the game, as Astro relievers retired the last ten Twin batters, fanning eight. Aside from the four runs surrendered by Nerris in game 1, Astro relievers allowed only 2 runs and 5 hits for the series, while striking out 24 over 14⅓ IP. Yordan Alvarez became the sixth player to homer in each of the first three games of a division series (Quiz: which of those players extended that streak to a fourth game?)

Orioles vs. Rangers

After sweeping the Rays in the wildcard round, Texas dispatched the O’s with the same efficiency. The first game was the only close contest, as the Rangers overcame 16 strikeouts (tying the post-season record for a winning team in a 9-inning game) to edge the home side 3-2. In game two, Matt Garver‘s 3rd inning grand slam opened up a 9-2 lead, powering Texas to an 11-8 victory, despite being outhit and outslugged. Instead, the Rangers outwalked their opponent, accepting 11 free passes by Oriole pitchers, including a post-season record 5 BB for Corey Seager. The Rangers followed the same script in the clinching game, with a 5-run rising in the 2nd inning to cruise to a 7-1 victory. Two Oriole starters each going less than 2 IP while allowing 5+ runs sets a new division series record, and ties the record for any series.

LCS Series

The NLCS pits the defending NL champion Phillies against the Diamondbacks, making their first NLCS appearance since 2007. The Astros defend their AL title against the Rangers, making their first ALCS appearance since back-to-back pennant-winning seasons in 2010 and 2011. This series also matches veteran managers Dusty Baker and Bruce Bochy, each of whom has over 2000 regular season victories to his credit (Quiz: which other post-season series matched skippers who then boasted the same credentials?)

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Paul E
Paul E
1 year ago

“……. in 2002, when the Angels became the first wildcard team to win the World Series.”

IIRC, the 1997 Marlins first turned the trick and did it again in 2003. So, in 110 less years of existence, the Marlins have as many world champeenships as the Phillies (1980, 2008).

Paul E
Paul E
1 year ago

“….. (the first was in 2002, when the Angels became the first wildcard team to win the World Series).”

At the risk of being “that guy”, I believe the Florida Marlins, in 1997, turned the trick (and in 2003, as well)?
Thusly, the Marlins have won as many WS titles as the Phila Phillies 1883 – present

Doug
Doug
1 year ago
Reply to  Paul E

Right you are. Thanks for the correction. I’ve amended the text to what I had actually intended to say.

Paul E
Paul E
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug

sorry for the double post….i stuttered as a child, too 🙁

Scary Tuna
Scary Tuna
1 year ago

I don’t think any of these is correct, but to get the guessing started:

First quiz question: the 2004 Red Sox come to mind as likely candidates in the ALCS against the Yankees.

For the second question, I want to say Daniel Murphy, but his came in the NLCS. Including the division series, didn’t he homer in six consecutive postseason games?

#3: Tony La Russia and… somebody else?

Doug
Doug
1 year ago
Reply to  Scary Tuna

#1 ALCS is right, but team and year are wrong

#2 Not Murphy, but you are absolutely correct about his 6 game homer streak in 2015, the longest in post-season history. Included were homers in first 4 games of the NLCS, tied with Carlos Beltran (2004) and Jeffrey Leonard (1987) for the longest streak to begin an LCS series.

#3 is half right

Scary Tuna
Scary Tuna
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug

Ha – I have no clue who “Tony La Russia” is! You were generous to give me half credit despite the typo. .

And Joe Torre is the other half of that answer. Wow! I forgot that Torre managed the Dodgers for three seasons after his Yankees tenure. His Dodgers swept La Russa’s Cardinals in the 2009 NLDS.

Oh so close when the Astros defeated the White Sox in the 2021 ALDS. At the time, La Russa had 2821 regular season wins, while Baker had 1987.

Doug
Doug
1 year ago
Reply to  Scary Tuna

The 2009 NLDS is what I was looking for.

Dusty Baker and Joe Torre are the only men with 2000 wins as a manager and 2000 games as a player.

Sparky Anderson also won 2000 games as a manager; he holds the record for most career games played (152) among players with a single season career.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug

Most career games played among players with a single season career.

Sparky Anderson 152
Art Mahan 146
Dutch Schliebner 146
Irv Waldron 141
Buddy Blair 137
Scotty Ingerton 136
Bob Maier 132

Doug
Doug
1 year ago

Interesting list. Anderson, Schliebner, Mahan and Ingerton fared poorly in their one chance in the majors, all with OPS+ under 80. Blair’s season was as a 31 year-old wartime replacement, before he too (apparently) joined the service. Maier was classified 4-F and worked his way through the minors during the war before his one major league season in 1945 for the WS champion Tigers. Perhaps spoiled by his World Series check (more than his salary), Maier demanded a raise the next season, didn’t get it and wouldn’t return to the minors, so his professional career ended right there. Waldron, at… Read more »

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Richard Chester
Richard Chester
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug

Not shown on that list is Buzz Arlett who may have been the greatest 1 season player. He played 121 games for the Phillies in 1931 with a slash line of .313/.387/.538/.925 with an OPS+ of 139, 18 HR, 72 RBIs and a WAR of2.3. In 1984 SABR named him as the greatest minor league player ever. It is worth reading his SABR biography

Doug
Doug
1 year ago

A player made for the DH role, Arlett was born 50 years too soon. His SABR bio indicates his defensive inadequacies were the reason he never got more of a shot at the bigs than his one season. While his defensive stats are not good, they don’t scream liability. Yes, he had the third most errors among right-fielders while playing only 94 games there, but he was also 3rd in range factor and outfield assists. You’d think a team as dismal as the Phils would have found a spot for a switch-hitter (with neutral splits) who could hit like Arlett.… Read more »

Last edited 1 year ago by Doug
no statistician but
no statistician but
1 year ago

The rhetorical question hanging in the air—could a baseball post-season possibly be any more inconsequential than the 2023 version?—is anyone’s to address who champions stray dogs and lost causes. Here’s a baseball quiz that can’t possibly be much more boring than what’s passing for World Series excitement to anyone outside of Dallas and Phoenix. The Pairs of Brothers questions that follow apply to players from 1901 onward who had substantial careers, so no O’Briens or Delahantys or Wrights (Not to be confused with Orville and Wilbur). Some of the questions are undoubtedly too easy, but a couple may inspire a… Read more »

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
1 year ago

For #14: Wes Ferrell and Rick Ferrell. Rick is the one who is sin.

no statistician but
no statistician but
1 year ago

Not sin, exactly. Just bad judgment.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
1 year ago

For #7 I’ll go with Mort and Walker Cooper.

no statistician but
no statistician but
1 year ago

And who else?

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
1 year ago

#4: Jim and Gaylord Perry.

no statistician but
no statistician but
1 year ago

Jim, the forgotten brother, won his first. Probably without saliva.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
1 year ago

For #6: Joe and Dom DiMaggio.

no statistician but
no statistician but
1 year ago

Right.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
1 year ago

For #1: I think it’s Bob and Irish Meusel back when the Yankees and Giants played in the WS in the 1920s.

no statistician but
no statistician but
1 year ago

Right again, Richard, but they aren’t the only pair.

Have we got to the point where there aren’t any other HHS contributors interested in player lore? I haven’t banned researching the answers. In fact my assumption was that some digging would be necessary.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
1 year ago

For #10: Dixie and Harry Walker

no statistician but
no statistician but
1 year ago

At one time a famous brotherly feat. Now the batting championship is, perhaps rightly, a title of lesser importance, akin to being the pitcher who leads the league in wins. Wins, of course, were a far better gauge of pitching prowess before the relatively recent disappearance of complete games. Batting average ceased being an automatic superlative measure gradually, as power hitting took over.

Scary Tuna
Scary Tuna
1 year ago

#8: Phil and Joe Niekro.

no statistician but
no statistician but
1 year ago
Reply to  Scary Tuna

Scary:

Correct.
Nice to have another responder.

It’s interesting, at least to me, that from 1967 through 1975 the Niekros and Perrys were all in the majors, that the older brother of each pair had the bigger, longer, and more consistent career, that the younger brother had his best seasons in his thirties. Result: 1068 wins.

Scary Tuna
Scary Tuna
1 year ago

Is #9 Rick Reuschel being relieved by (older) brother Paul when both were with the Cubs?

no statistician but
no statistician but
1 year ago
Reply to  Scary Tuna

In just one game that I could find, but yes.

Doug
Doug
1 year ago

Kind of like when Tommie Aaron relieved Henry Aaron. That happened four times in 1971 and twice in 1968, in lop-sided games that Hank started at 1st base.

Scary Tuna
Scary Tuna
1 year ago

#7: Mort and Walker Cooper.

no statistician but
no statistician but
1 year ago
Reply to  Scary Tuna

Yes, but Richard already nailed that one. Who are the other brothers to whom this applies?

Scary Tuna
Scary Tuna
1 year ago

Oops – I glossed right over that, and I see that Tom figured out the other brothers below.

Scary Tuna
Scary Tuna
1 year ago

Is #5 possibly Joe and Dom DiMaggio, too? They were AL All-Stars together six times.

no statistician but
no statistician but
1 year ago
Reply to  Scary Tuna

You’re right. I miscounted. Interestingly, brother Vince made his two All-Star appearances in years when Joe and Dom did not, owing to WWII, not necessarily inferior play.

Tom
Tom
1 year ago

#3: Paul and Dizzy Dean for the 1934 Gashouse Gang Cardinals.

no statistician but
no statistician but
1 year ago
Reply to  Tom

Absolutely. Thanks, Tom.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
1 year ago

#13: Paul and Lloyd Waner, although Lloyd’s OPS+ of 99 makes him a questionable choice. My BR browsing allowed me to discover that in 1927 Paul drove Lloyd home 65 times. I have not been able to find any pair of players with a larger number.

no statistician but
no statistician but
1 year ago

Richard:

At least the writers also got the correct brother into the Hall, while Wes Ferrell is still under-appreciated by the veterans committee, or what ever name the process goes by now.

no statistician but
no statistician but
1 year ago

On the Brothers Quiz, these questions remain unanswered or only partially answered. 1) There’s still another pair besides the Meusels who appeared against each other in the Series. Hint: They played the same position. 2) Hint: the full-time position player brothers played for an Ohio team. Both pairs. 7) Hint: The other pair of battery mates figure in a separate question in the quiz. 11) Hint: This pair figures in another quiz question. 12) No hints. 15) Since this is a really bizarre question, it deserves a pair of hints. a) Going by such things as WAR, the older brother… Read more »

Tom
Tom
1 year ago

#1 Clete & Ken Boyer -1964

no statistician but
no statistician but
1 year ago
Reply to  Tom

Right on, Tom.

Tom
Tom
1 year ago

#7 Wes & Rick Ferrell
#11 Bob & Irish Meusel

no statistician but
no statistician but
1 year ago
Reply to  Tom

You’re on a roll.

Doug
Doug
1 year ago

#7 – Buck Ewing and John Ewing were teammates on the 1890 and 1891 Giants, with Buck catching 81 and 6 games in those seasons, and John making 31 and 30 starts. So, most likely they were batterymates on numerous occasions in 1890. Obviously, long before All-Star games, but had there been such things in the 19th century, Buck obviously would have been one, and John might have been one in 1891 when he led the NL in ERA and W-L%.

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Richard Chester
Richard Chester
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug

My reference book, The Baseball Maniac’s Almanac,confirms the Ewings as battery mates.

Doug
Doug
1 year ago

#11 – Irish Meusel led the NL in RBI in 1923, and Bob Meusel was an AL co-leader in RBI in 1925.

no statistician but
no statistician but
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug

Hi, Doug.

Tom appears to have beaten you by ten minutes to the answer of this one but that’s happened to me in quizzes of the past, so you get equal credit.

Doug
Doug
1 year ago

#2 – Not the answer you’re looking for, and not for the same franchise, but Jesse Fowler and Art Fowler played in seasons 40 years apart, Jesse for the 1924 Cardinals and Art for the 1964 Angels. Jesse was born 24 years before Art.

Doug
Doug
1 year ago

#15: Jeff (Edward Joseph) Pfeffer and Big Jeff (Francis Xavier) Pfeffer

no statistician but
no statistician but
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug

Got it.

Scary Tuna
Scary Tuna
1 year ago

#15 – Good question! First, we should mention the currently active set of brothers who do share a given first name: Carlos Eduardo Perez, a backstop for the Rockies, and his younger brother Carlos Jesus Perez, who catches for the White Sox. Each brother will now receive a George Foreman grill as a parting gift for appearing in this quiz. The answer you are looking for is pitchers Big Jeff (Francis Xavier) and Jeff (Edward Joseph) Pfeffer. Big Jeff pitched from 1905-11, accumulating 2.4 WAR, while younger brother Jeff had more success from 1911-24, earning 38.5 WAR. Perhaps this should… Read more »

Scary Tuna
Scary Tuna
1 year ago
Reply to  Scary Tuna

And, I guess I should have refreshed the page before submitting that a minute ago… Doug got the answer in first.

no statistician but
no statistician but
1 year ago
Reply to  Scary Tuna

You still get full credit, especially given the depth of your response.

Doug
Doug
1 year ago
Reply to  Scary Tuna

The other curious thing about those nicknames:
Jeff – 6’3″-210
Big Jeff – 6’1″-185

Evidently, Big Jeff’s nickname had more to do with being the big brother, six years older than Jeff.

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Doug
Doug
1 year ago

#12: Here are a couple with almost the same lifetime BA.
Bob (.309) and Irish (.310) Meusel
Marv (.237) and Faye (.236) Throneberry

no statistician but
no statistician but
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug

The pair I’m looking for always seem to fly under the radar, but one has borderline HOF stats, despite not making the majors until age 27.

Tom
Tom
1 year ago

Bob and Roy Johnson, both at .296. Bob made it to the majors at 27, Roy at 26. Both started their pro careers at 23, and starred in the PCL before going to the majors.

no statistician but
no statistician but
1 year ago
Reply to  Tom

Another winner for Tom. Good going.

no statistician but
no statistician but
1 year ago

Oops. Upon rechecking, I find that I goofed slightly on Question 2, insofar as one of the four players, like many catchers, never had a qualifying season, being platooned a lot. He was a six-time All-Star, nevertheless. A second hint: one out of each pair of brothers is a HOFer.

Doug
Doug
1 year ago

#2: One pair is Roberto and Sandy Alomar Jr.

Last edited 1 year ago by Doug
no statistician but
no statistician but
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug

Right. The other pair also is made up of a catcher and an infielder.

Scary Tuna
Scary Tuna
1 year ago

The other pair for # 2 is Joe and Luke Sewell.

no statistician but
no statistician but
1 year ago
Reply to  Scary Tuna

And the quiz is done as the Series ends. I read in the Chicago Tribune that the Cubs win in 2016 had 50 million viewers, and the first game of the 2023 matchup had nine million.

So where is that extra $$$$ coming from that the ever expanding playoffs are supposed to be generating?

Doug
Doug
1 year ago

Reminder that there are still a couple of unanswered questions from the post, for those in the mood for a little more sleuthing.

Yordan Alvarez became the sixth player to homer in each of the first three games of a division series (Quiz: which of those players extended that streak to a fourth game?)

[The Dodgers are the second team to begin a series with] three starters each allowing 3+ runs in less than 3 IP (Quiz: which was the first team to do this? Hint: they won the series).

no statistician but
no statistician but
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug

Wild guess about the second question: the 2004 Red Sox vs the Yankees when they won four in a row after being down three.

Doug
Doug
1 year ago

Good guess, but not correct.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug

The player to extend his streak to 4 games is Juan Gonzalez in 1996.

Doug
Doug
1 year ago

Correct.

Jeffrey Leonard (1987), Carlos Beltran (2004) and Daniel Murphy (2015) homered in the first four games of the NLCS. Hasn’t happened in the ALCS or WS.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
1 year ago

Given the lull of comments here I decided to post this. A few years ago I stumbled across a fact which noted that Steve Garvey, Davey Lopes, Bill Russell and Ron Cey started 833 games together at their respective positions of 1B, 2B, SS and 3B. That provided me with an inspiration to create a spreadsheet that could count games started together at their respective positions for any group of players. After I created it I entered the above mentioned players and came up with the same number, 833. If anybody out there wants to submit a group of players… Read more »

no statistician but
no statistician but
1 year ago

Richard: 

Here are some famous groups of four or more players you might look into. In the case of the early Cubs dynasty, you also might go at the seven in bunches of four or five to see where that leads.

The Cubs of the Aughts: Kling, Chance, Tinker, Evers, Steinfeldt, Sheckard, Schulte

Ruth’s Yankees: Ruth Gehrig, Lazzari, Combs

Connie Mack’s Crew: Cochrane, Simmons, Foxx, Bishop, Dykes

Post WW II Red Sox: Williams, Pesky, D. DiMaggio, Doerr

Tigers of the ’60s: Kaline, Cash, Northrop, Freehan, McAuliffe

Torre’s Yanks: Williams, O’Niell, Jeter, Martinez

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
1 year ago

For Connie Mack’s crew:287 games.

For Ruth’s Yankees: 427 games with Ruth as RF and 308 games with Ruth as a LF.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
1 year ago

For Torre’s Yankees: 658 games and with Posada it’s 346 games

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
1 year ago

For the Red Sox for all the games they played together: 427 games with Pesky as SS and 293 games with Pesky at 3Bat 3B.

no statistician but
no statistician but
1 year ago

Thanks Richard.

Here’s one more:

Boys of Summer: Campanella, Hodges, Robinson, Reese, Furillo, Snider

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
1 year ago

That,s next on my list.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
1 year ago

For Snider CF, Furillo RF, Hodges 1B, Reese SS, Campanella C and Robinson 2B there are 370 games. Without Robinson. who played barely 1/2 of his games at 2B, the other 5 played in 714 games.

Paul E
Paul E
1 year ago

Must have been pretty easy to write out a lineup card for the Dodgers 1947 – 1956

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
1 year ago

For the 1960 Tigers it gets too messy to search because Northrup and McAuliffe played a significant number of games at 3 different positions.

Paul E
Paul E
1 year ago

Richard,
How about Yaz, Petrocelli, Scott, and Reggie Smith?

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
1 year ago
Reply to  Paul E

My spreadsheet is not cooperating now, I’ll try later. One thing I have discovered is that the spreadsheet is most effective for players with the overwhelming majority of their games played at a particular position.Three of the 4 players you mentioned do not meet that requirement. See my earlier comments.

Paul E
Paul E
1 year ago

Richard,
My fault. How about Schmidt, Boone, Bowa, and Luzinski? Pretty consistent play at 3B, C, SS, and LF respectively. Thanks again

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
1 year ago
Reply to  Paul E

That worked very well, there were 628 such games.

Paul E
Paul E
1 year ago

Thanks ! Anorther that might work out well?:
White, Boyer, Flood, Javier, Groat ?

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
1 year ago
Reply to  Paul E

There were 341 such games.

Paul E
Paul E
1 year ago

Thanks! I imagine almost double that 341 if Groat is excluded? I believe one or maybe even two years the infield played about 155+ games together but Groat was still in Pittsburgh for the beginning of the total stretch 1961. ….
Groat and White got traded in 1966 with John Quinn searching for guys to take the Phillies over the top. I believe White once claimed the 1966 Phillies had more talent than the 1964 Cardinals?

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
1 year ago
Reply to  Paul E

Without Groat it was 612 games, not for off from double.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
1 year ago

That should be far, not for.

Paul E
Paul E
1 year ago

Thanks! – If you get a chance, it appears that Trammell, Lemon, and Whitaker may have played close to 1,000 games together but Gibson wasn’t there for all of those nor was Parrish. Any idea which combination of those three plus which fourth worked together most frequently? Same problem with Rose, Perez, and Bench through 1976. Who would be the fourth with those three? I believe Tommy Helms was with the Reds longer than Joe Morgan? Any input is greatly appreciated. Thanks again.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
1 year ago
Reply to  Paul E

For Trammell, Whitaker and Lemon I found 505 games.

Paul E
Paul E
1 year ago

Richard, for the period 1982 – 1990, I’m getting a worst case scenario of ~ 668. Games scheduled minus games not started by all three. Maybe because any one of them may have DH’d several times per season and Lemon played about 160 games in RF? Perhaps the spreadsheets are ‘married’ to a specific position for each player?

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
1 year ago
Reply to  Paul E

The spreadsheet is “married” to a specific position for each player. I also ran Williams, Dom DiMaggio and Doerr and found 946 games.

Paul E
Paul E
1 year ago

With the way he moved guys around, I guess the “marital” status of the spreadsheet would preclude any Gene Mauch led team….hahaha
I believe the troika of Brooks Robinson, Boog Powell, and Paul Blair might top 1,000? Pretty solid 3B, 1B, CF with a few GG for the two of them

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
1 year ago
Reply to  Paul E

Robinson, Powell and Blair started together in 800 games.

no statistician but
no statistician but
1 year ago

The New York Yankees have just finished their thirty-first consecutive season with a winning record, albeit the .506 W-L percentage in 2023 was the lowest of the 31. From 1926 to 1964 the franchise strung together an even longer run of thirty-nine years, and in the period between the two from 1965 to 1992 they had an additional eighteen seasons where they finished on the plus side of the ledger. If they manage the next two years at .500 or better, they will have spent 90 of the past 100 seasons as winners rather than losers. Looking backwards instead to… Read more »

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
1 year ago

The Yankees longest streak of 39 winning seasons is more than the top two winning streaks of any other team on the list.

Scary Tuna
Scary Tuna
1 year ago

Good post, nsb. It’s doubtful any team can rival the Yankees’ dominance over the past 105 years. While the Montreal Canadiens definitely fall short, with 20 losing seasons over the same time frame, they might hold a solid claim on second place in extended dominance. With the NHL’s numerous ties and overtime losses, mediocrity isn’t enough to qualify for a losing record; a sub-.500 team usually needs to be bad. To that end, Les Habitants match the Yankees with their longest streak of losing seasons at just four. Their second longest streak appears to be only two (accomplished at least… Read more »

no statistician but
no statistician but
1 year ago
Reply to  Scary Tuna

Thanks, ST. Doug is a hockey fan too, so maybe he’ll chime in on your comment. A hockey comment of my own: If hockey is this rugged cold-weather sport and not for wimps—I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out— why has the sport been dominated lately by teams in warm climes? Back to baseball and the lists above: One of the interesting things I discovered is that, in the loss column of my chart, the two franchises that fared the best after the Yankees and Giants were the Indians—yes, Guardians—and White Sox, teams… Read more »

Voomo
Voomo
11 months ago
Reply to  Doug

Yankees missed out on 28 consecutive seasons with a .539 and .533 during the war.

Voomo
Voomo
11 months ago
Reply to  Voomo

Not sure how the Yanx compared to other teams with regards to how many starters went to war, but here are the key bats and arms that they lost from 43 to 44:

Dickey
Gordon
Keller

Spud
Wensloff
Johnny Murphy

Scary Tuna
Scary Tuna
11 months ago
Reply to  Voomo

Interesting question, Voomo. The Yankees also played 1943-45 without DiMaggio, Henrich, and Rizzuto. Frank Crosetti was out for over half of the 1944 season. And they additionally missed Red Ruffing’s arm from 1944-45. All these dates are rough. Some players missed parts of additional seasons; other played a few games in the seasons mentioned. The other team I checked was the Red Sox, and the findings were similar. Out 1943-45: OFs Ted Williams, Lou Finney, and Dom DiMaggio, SS Johnny Pesky, and P Charlie Wagner. From 1944-45 they missed pitchers Joe Dobson and Mace Brown . And for the 1945… Read more »

Paul E
Paul E
1 year ago

Strange, but true.
Derek Jeter, entire career of 2,747 games; 3,465 hits .310 BA
Pete Rose through his initial 2,747 games; 3,464 hits .311 BA

no statistician but
no statistician but
1 year ago
Reply to  Paul E

Not of the same consequence as your find, Paul, but here’s another statistical coincidence, or possibly two of them:

Home runs in 1987

Dwight Evans 34
Darrell Evens 34

Will Clark 35
Jack Clark 35

For three of the four players, this was their highest four bagger output.

Paul E
Paul E
11 months ago

Just saw this but, Arky Vaughan’s 1935 Rbat of 70 appears to be the all-time high for the SS position….can anyone confirm? Doesn’t look like ARod, Ripken, Wagner, Yount, or Banks ever came close.
Thanks!!

Bob Eno
Bob Eno
11 months ago
Reply to  Paul E

Hi Paul. This seems to be true for all HoF SSs, at least, although when it comes to “coming close,” ARod’s 2005 season Rbat of 66 would seem to qualify.

Vaughan’s Rbat+ in ’35 was a spectacular 198, but isn’t the top SS number (Jennings 1899, 201; Wagner 1908, 210; Appling 1945, 203 . . .).

Vaughan seems to me one of the most underrated players ever.

Paul E
Paul E
11 months ago
Reply to  Bob Eno

Bob,
Arod played six innings at SS for the Yankees in 2005; Jeter 1,352.67 ….But, A-Rod did have 3 seasons of 58 Rbat while at SS with the Mariners and Rangers. Coincidentally, Jeter had one season of 58 Rbat in 1999 when he, arguably, should have been AL MVP but finished 6th.
I certainly agree on the underated Vaughan thing…..a real oversight – even beyond being Bobby Grich.

Bob Eno
Bob Eno
11 months ago
Reply to  Paul E

Ugh! That was a rookie error I made, Paul. Too long away from the game. But thanks for moving quickly past it.