Should Pitchers Bat Eighth?

Baseball-Reference‘s Play Index shows games since 1930 with starting pitchers batting in most batting order positions but most commonly, of course, in the number 9 hole. Next most common, by far, is batting the pitcher eighth, a tactic which has become more popular in recent years, exceeding 10% of team games this season and last. That is a huge departure from past practice as, other than in the mid-1950s and in 1998, there were virtually no such games before 2007. The question then is why has batting your pitcher eighth now come somewhat into vogue?

You can weigh in on this question after the jump.

Here’s the chart, illustrating the trend in games with the pitcher batting somewhere other than 9th.

Non-DH Team Games Starting Pitcher Not Batting 9th

 

Those recent games include 36 since 2008 (none prior) with both starting pitchers batting eighth; 25 of those 36 have come in the past two seasons.

It’s probably better at this point to term batting pitchers eighth as an experiment more than a trend. That assessment is illustrated by the table below showing games by team for the past two seasons.

Pitchers Batting Eighth by Team

So, teams that experimented last year (Cubs, Reds, Mets, Padres) aren’t doing so nearly as much this year, while new teams (D-Backs, Braves, Phillies, Giants) are leading this year’s experiment.

Looking at players, these are the pitchers with the most starts since 2015 batting eighth.

Rk Player #Matching PA AB R H HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS Tm
1 Jason Hammel 32 Ind. Games 73 68 6 11 0 4 1 20 .162 .171 .176 .348 CHC
2 Kyle Hendricks 30 Ind. Games 68 62 2 4 0 2 1 26 .065 .079 .081 .160 CHC
3 Jake Arrieta 27 Ind. Games 73 69 4 9 1 1 1 41 .130 .143 .217 .360 CHC
4 Jon Lester 26 Ind. Games 58 53 3 2 0 0 2 26 .038 .073 .038 .110 CHC
5 Zack Greinke 15 Ind. Games 40 34 4 8 0 3 2 5 .235 .263 .265 .528 LAD,ARI
6 Johnny Cueto 14 Ind. Games 40 37 0 4 0 0 0 12 .108 .108 .108 .216 CIN,SFG
7 Michael Lorenzen 11 Ind. Games 21 19 2 7 0 4 0 4 .368 .368 .474 .842 CIN
8 Anthony DeSclafani 11 Ind. Games 25 21 1 5 0 1 2 11 .238 .304 .286 .590 CIN
9 Madison Bumgarner 10 Ind. Games 26 23 3 5 1 2 3 11 .217 .308 .391 .699 SFG
10 Raisel Iglesias 9 Ind. Games 19 18 0 1 0 0 0 9 .056 .056 .056 .111 CIN
11 Jeremy Hellickson 9 Ind. Games 18 11 1 0 0 2 3 5 .000 .214 .000 .214 ARI,PHI
12 Dan Haren 9 Ind. Games 21 15 1 1 0 1 3 4 .067 .211 .067 .277 CHC
13 Travis Wood 8 Ind. Games 19 19 0 2 0 1 0 10 .105 .105 .105 .211 CHC
14 Noah Syndergaard 8 Ind. Games 20 19 0 1 0 0 0 15 .053 .053 .053 .105 NYM
15 Mike Leake 8 Ind. Games 21 20 2 4 0 3 0 9 .200 .200 .250 .450 CIN
16 Aaron Nola 7 Ind. Games 17 14 1 1 0 0 2 5 .071 .188 .143 .330 PHI
17 Jon Niese 7 Ind. Games 18 15 1 2 0 0 2 5 .133 .235 .133 .369 NYM
18 Adam Morgan 7 Ind. Games 12 11 0 0 0 0 0 2 .000 .000 .000 .000 PHI
19 Jacob deGrom 7 Ind. Games 17 16 3 6 0 1 0 6 .375 .375 .438 .813 NYM
20 Tsuyoshi Wada 6 Ind. Games 9 8 1 0 0 0 1 5 .000 .111 .000 .111 CHC
21 Vincent Velasquez 6 Ind. Games 14 11 3 4 0 0 1 3 .364 .417 .364 .780 PHI
22 James Shields 6 Ind. Games 13 11 0 1 0 1 0 4 .091 .091 .091 .182 SDP
23 Jerad Eickhoff 6 Ind. Games 12 12 0 3 0 3 0 1 .250 .250 .250 .500 PHI
24 Matt Wisler 5 Ind. Games 12 12 0 0 0 0 0 6 .000 .000 .000 .000 ATL
25 Jeff Samardzija 5 Ind. Games 15 15 0 2 0 3 0 5 .133 .133 .200 .333 SFG
26 Tyson Ross 5 Ind. Games 12 9 1 3 0 3 2 3 .333 .417 .333 .750 SDP
27 Wily Peralta 5 Ind. Games 8 6 1 0 0 1 1 3 .000 .143 .000 .143 MIL
28 Jimmy Nelson 5 Ind. Games 13 11 0 1 0 0 1 4 .091 .167 .091 .258 MIL
29 Ian Kennedy 5 Ind. Games 9 7 0 0 0 0 0 6 .000 .000 .000 .000 SDP
30 Aaron Blair 5 Ind. Games 5 5 0 1 0 0 0 2 .200 .200 .200 .400 ATL
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 7/12/2016.

Take those numbers with a grain (or more) of salt, but there are some batting averages in that list that would justify moving the pitcher up in the batting order (but many others that wouldn’t). Generally, though, teams that are using this strategy are doing so without discriminating among their different pitchers.

Some possible reasons for batting the pitcher eighth:

  1. the pitcher is a better hitter than another starter
  2. it helps to put a man on base for the top of the order (particularly attractive if a team can bat a second leadoff-type hitter in the 9 hole)
  3. something more complicated

One thought under that third category is that teams might be batting their pitcher eighth to reduce the times that the pitcher will lead off an inning. Obviously every team wants to avoid that, but batting a weak hitter eighth ahead of the pitcher (the traditional approach) usually doesn’t help much in that regard when that weak hitter bats with two out. Swapping your 8 and 9 hitters might help to extend innings, assuming (usually correctly) that the no. 7 hitter is a somewhat better hitter than the man who follows him (in 2015, no.7 batters posted .697 OPS compared to .653 for no. 8 hitters). That no. 7 hitter hitter is likely to extend more innings:

  • because he is a better hitter than the former no. 8 hitter
  • being a better hitter, he is more likely to be walked ahead of the pitcher than the former no. 8 hitter
  • even if he doesn’t extend the inning, by having the pitcher lead off the next inning with a weak hitter following, there’s a good chance of two outs when the top of the order comes up and, therefore, a reasonable chance that the inning will end before the meat of the order comes up (saving them to do some damage in the next inning)

I did a little investigation into this question using the 2015 data, but didn’t see any correlation between batting pitchers eighth and leading off innings less often. Possibly one reason for this result is that teams batting the pitcher eighth usually haven’t swapped the 8 and 9 hitters (maybe they should?), but instead have just moved their preferred leadoff-type hitter to the 9 hole (strategy #2 above) with the result that the pitcher still follows the next weakest hitter, who is now batting seventh.

To close, here are data for 2015 for players having 30+ PA batting eighth with two out ahead of the pitcher’s spot in the first through sixth innings (after the 6th inning the pitcher could be hitting almost anywhere in the order and will seldom bat in any case).

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Notable that Nick Ahmed received no intentional walks in 83 PA in this situation (but that’s a subject for another post). Adeiny Hechavarria shines in this comparison, not only extending innings but doing some damage in the process with the sum of his RE24*LI scores more than twice that of any other player.

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Richard Chester
Richard Chester
8 years ago

If you logon to retrosheet.org, click on Features, then click on Research papers and then scroll down about 50 rows there is an article titled “Should Pitchers Bat 9th?”. The author’s conclusion was that they should bat 9th.

David P
David P
8 years ago

Meanwhile, this analysis from Hardball Times concluded that pitchers should bat 8th. And mentions that Tom Tango’s “The Book” also reached that conclusion.

http://www.hardballtimes.com/is-larussa-right-to-bat-his-pitcher-in-the-eight-slot/

bstar
bstar
8 years ago
Reply to  David P

The evidence that The Book found for batting the pitcher 8th was a whopping two runs per season. So a very negligible effect. And it wasn’t really presented as a “every team SHOULD do this” sort of thing.

Doug
Doug
8 years ago
Reply to  bstar

Thanks for that assessment, bstar.

I was going to look it up because I didn’t recall The Book reaching that conclusion. Guess my memory wasn’t far off if the conclusion was that tenuous.

David P
David P
8 years ago
Reply to  bstar

Hmmm..I thought it was kind of obvious that my use of the word should was related to Doug’s using it in the post of his title and Richard’s use of it in the comment above, and nothing more than that. 🙂

bstar
bstar
8 years ago
Reply to  David P

Sorry, my use of the word should wasn’t related to your use or Doug’s or Richard’s. I was just trying to sum up my interpretation of their conclusion, which was that it wasn’t necessarily a strong advocacy for the move so much as a very, very slight advantage. +2 runs over the course of a full season isn’t much, and when you factor in that no team has ever done it every single game of the year, we’re basically talking about a fraction of one run over the course of a full season. So “it’s basically a wash, so go… Read more »

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
8 years ago
Reply to  David P

Reply to #27.
A research paper in retrosheet.org has shown that from 1957-2005 that the number 8 batter led off the 3rd inning 41042 times versus 40273 times from the number 9 batter.

TBJESE
TBJESE
8 years ago
Reply to  David P

@Bstar

The reason is that the 9-hitter is in a better position to be driven-in by the meat of the order. This gives the 9-hitter increased OBP importance

Doug
Doug
8 years ago

When Kelvin Herrera retired Odubel Herrera tonight, it was NOT the first time in an ASG that batter and pitcher shared a family name. Which two players were involved the only other time this happened?

Kahuna Tuna
Kahuna Tuna
8 years ago
Reply to  Doug

The AL’s Todd Jones struck out the NL’s Andruw Jones to end the bottom of the seventh inning in the 2000 game.

Doug
Doug
8 years ago

Is the new Commish starting the “rehabilitation process” for Pete Rose? That thought came to mind seeing Pete do the pre-game analysis (such as it was) for Fox tonight. Wouldn’t appearing for MLB’s official broadcaster at a marquis event count as “involvement” with MLB that Rose is supposedly barred from?

Mike L
Mike L
8 years ago
Reply to  Doug

Baseball is a business. We love it because it calls to something inside us that binds us to history, yet keeps us young and dreaming. But for the corporate figures who move billions around, it’s very much a profit-making, asset growing business. MLB does nothing without purpose. Rose couldn’t have been on without Manfred’s consent. Just as it’s clear the rehabilitation process has started with the PED players for whom there is widespread affection.

mosc
mosc
8 years ago

I think if you have a guy who’s either a) decent slugger with a poor OBP and b) a poor baserunner, there’s extra incentive to have that guy hit above the pitcher. He’ll get on base more than he would otherwise with the pitcher on deck and if you bat the pitcher 8th and this hypothetical fielder 7th, he’s not clogging up the bases for your leadoff guys. I’d be curious to see the stats of the guys who batted 7th and 9th when the pitcher was in the 8-hole. Though Bumgardner and Greinke should probably be hitting higher than… Read more »

John
John
8 years ago

A starting pitcher leading off or hitting clean up? My guess is the clean up hitter was some guy named Ruth, but who led off?

Kahuna Tuna
Kahuna Tuna
8 years ago
Reply to  John

Good guess on Ruth. He batted cleanup as the starting pitcher 12 times in 1918, 14 times in 1919, and once in 1920.

Doug
Doug
8 years ago
Reply to  John

You were right to be skeptical, John. I was searching for players batting in each batting order position as starters and pitchers. That search result included a few non-pitchers who started the game at one position and then moved to pitcher later in the game. Here’s the revised list: 1st: none* 2nd: none** 3rd: Babe Ruth, George Sisler, Andy Sonnanstine*** 4th: Babe Ruth 5th: Johnny Lindell, Jack Bentley, Walter Johnson, Doc Crandall 6th, 7th: lots * Charlie Jamieson was Philadelphia’s everyday right-fielder and leadoff hitter in 1918 before being briefly moved to the pitching staff in August. He made a… Read more »

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
8 years ago
Reply to  Doug

Al Dark on 9-27-53 and Cesar Tovar on 9-22-68 were position players who started the game as a pitcher and batted first. They each pitched an inning. Tovar’s game was the one in which he played every position.

Voomo Zanzibar
Voomo Zanzibar
8 years ago
Reply to  Doug

Sonnanstine was included in the starting lineup due to a mistake when Rays manager Joe Maddon entered the wrong lineup card, which had both Evan Longoria and Ben Zobrist playing third base, omitting the DH spot.

Longoria, the intended DH, had to sit.
Sonnanstine had a RBI double in the game, the only XBH of his career.
(He had 0.5 WAR on offense and -0.2 as a pitcher)

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/TBA/TBA200905170.shtml

brent
brent
8 years ago
Reply to  Doug

The Jamieson and Cooney examples bother me. If those guys were good enough to bat 1st or 2nd when they weren’t pitching, why should it be any different when they were. The ultimate example of this (wrongheaded) kind of thinking came in the 1918 WS where the BoSox batted Ruth 9th in Game 1 when he started as pitcher, and then batted him 6th in Game 4 as the starting pitcher. And didn’t start him in the OF at all in the other 4 games!! This was a player who had a 192+ OPS that year. And just taking random… Read more »

David P
David P
8 years ago
Reply to  brent

Wes Ferrell also almost always batted 9th, even though he was good enough to be used as a pinch hitter and sometimes as an outfielder. And had a 100 career OPS+.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
8 years ago
Reply to  David P

In 1933 Ferrell started in 13 games as a LF and batted 5th, 6th or 7th. In all of his pitching starts he batted 9th.

Hartvig
Hartvig
8 years ago
Reply to  David P

I just looked up Ferrell before I saw your comment and I have to admit that I was pretty amazed to see that as well. I do suppose that the vast majority of his pinch-hitting appearances were for pitchers so I can understand that but he was clearly at least as good a hitter- and often better than- some of the catchers & shortstops that the Indians deployed during his tenure. Same thing in Boston at 2nd base during his time there.
I’m mean Sky Melillo- really?

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
8 years ago
Reply to  David P

Ferrell had 123 PH appearances. 91 were from the #9 batting order position and the other 32 in higher batting order positions.

Doug
Doug
8 years ago
Reply to  David P

I suppose the explanation of why the same player would bat in a different position when pitching than when not could be that if you bat him somewhere other than 9th when he pitches, then one of the other players suffers the ignominy of batting 9th.

Seems silly now but maybe in the old days there were things that were just not done if you wanted to keep the peace in your clubhouse.

David P
David P
8 years ago
Reply to  David P

I suppose the other explanation would be that if your starter gets knocked out early, then you’re stuck with the pitcher’s spot being higher in the lineup than you might want for the rest of the game.

Doug
Doug
8 years ago
Reply to  brent

Another example is Doc Crandall on the list as a 5th place batter in two 1914 games. Crandall pitched 27 games that year, played 63 games at second base and one each in CF and SS (and had zero games starting in the field and then moving to pitcher, or vice-versa). Other than those two games pitching and batting 5th, Crandall batted 9th in every game he pitched, and batted anywhere from 3rd to 7th in his other games, but most often 5th. Crandall, a noted relief specialist, got the nickname Doc courtesy of Damon Runyon who likened him to… Read more »

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
8 years ago

That spike in the bar graph for 1957 is mostly due to the KC Athletics. For their first 56 games IF Joe DeMaestri, Billy Hunter and Milt Graff started and batted 9th. The A’s record during that period was 23-32 (one tie game) for a W-L percentage of .411. For the remainder of the season the pitcher batted last and the team record was 36-62 for .367.

Luis G
Luis G
8 years ago

Why not? If a pitcher like Mad-Bum hits better than your average infielder, I say let him hit, even higher in the order if he is capable. I mean, are they afraid he´s gonna get hurt if he? He is going to bat anyway.

I know your study is regarding the strategy around a pitcher hitting eight in the order, but we have seen pitchers in all eras that can really rake. I say let them show us what they can do.

Luis G
Luis G
8 years ago
Reply to  Luis G

Please, ignore that “if he”. Sorry.

Voomo Zanzibar
Voomo Zanzibar
8 years ago

Okay, as a lifetime Yankees fan (which I’m stuck with, regardless of the fact that I’ve disliked their operational procedure for 15 years – I’m stuck with it – the level of happiness at the end of my day rests partially on whether or not they won – I cannot help it), I’m going to write out my plan to trade almost everybody on the team. Really, can we just fully embrace a youth movement please? I’m sure there a thousand other guys on the internet writing this stuff, but here goes: CATCHER They currently pay 17 million through 2018… Read more »

David P
David P
8 years ago
Reply to  Voomo Zanzibar

Voomo – As an Indians fan, I can guarantee you that there’s no way Cleveland takes on Headley’s salary. The Indians are by far one of the most budget conscious teams in baseball and Headley’s salary would blow a big hole in the budget. Cleveland’s highest paid player this year is Carlos Santana at a whopping $8.25 million. Next year’s budget is likely to increase by $10 million (per baseball reference)…adding Headley would more than double that increase. Beyond that, it’s not clear the Indians have a need for Headley. Michael Brantley is currently on a minor league rehab assignment… Read more »

Voomo Zanzibar
Voomo Zanzibar
8 years ago
Reply to  David P

Yes, all good points.
My reasoning is that I had insomnia, and I have better things to do than think about the Yankees, and I needed to get all that out of my system

(i refrained from deconstructing the pitching staff)

Mike L
Mike L
8 years ago
Reply to  Voomo Zanzibar

Voomo, as a Yankees fan, I’m going to double up and say I’m tired of seeing declining name players dominating the roster. Playing for a few games above .500 in order to grab a Wild Card spot, which is what they have been doing the last few years, leaves them with middling draft-picks and an over-reliance on either spending for older free agents, or making trades for expensive fixes at the cost of whatever talent is in the farm system. And worse, I’m bored.

David P
David P
8 years ago
Reply to  Mike L

Voomo and Mike L –

As someone who follows the Yankees closely (always best to know your enemy!), I think the decoupling/rebuilding process will take a minimum of 3-5 years. So far though, I haven’t seen evidence that management has the intestinal fortitude to go through that process. What do you think?

Voomo Zanzibar
Voomo Zanzibar
8 years ago
Reply to  David P

I have no idea what the management is thinking. They had a brilliant model while winning 4 out of 5 championships: Homegrown players up the middle, reasonably priced platoon veterans, some choice FAs on the mound… and Mariano. Pinch hitting for Paul O’Neill in Game 7 of the 2001 WS jinxed them, and then they overcompensated by hiring mercenaries at max contracts. That system worked one year (2009), otherwise it has simply sucked the soul out of the organization. And as Mike L says, it is boring. But what they should do is hire me to build their roster, so… Read more »

Mike L
Mike L
8 years ago
Reply to  David P

Management is going to be forced to do it. There’s nothing left in the tank right now. They need youth and athleticism. They have the money to absorb some of the bad contracts–they should be opportunistic, on both the buy and sell side, taking advantage of inefficiencies and sudden needs. The team cannot win as currently constructed, but does have some assets that can be sold.

David P
David P
8 years ago

Here’s something I’ve never seen mentioned before. Jose Fernandez is 25-1 in his career at home, with a 1.43 ERA. On the road, he’s only 8-12 with a 3.84 ERA. I think even Sandy Koufax would be a bit jealous of that home/road split.

Fernandez won his first 17 home decisions before losing this years season opener to the Tigers. He’s since reeled off 8 more victories at home.

Voomo Zanzibar
Voomo Zanzibar
8 years ago

In tonight’s 18 inning game, Frazier of thew Pirates had

3 doubles
2 walks
1 run
0 rbi

That line has happened twice before in the searchable era.

Sep 11, 2009, by Shane Victorino:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/PHI/PHI200909110.shtml

And June 12th, 1927, by Hack WIlson:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN192706120.shtml

Voomo Zanzibar
Voomo Zanzibar
8 years ago

Right now, Trevor Story has 87 hits and a league-leading 117 strikeouts. He also has 181 Total bases. Projected over 162 G, that is 166 hits, 223 SO, and 345 TB. That’s a hit for every 1.34 SO. Here are the seasons with the most Total Bases with 1.3+ SO per hit: 331 … Ryan Howard 322 … Chris Davis 314 … Ryan Howard 309 … Mark Reynolds 299 … Adam Dunn 293 … Curtis Granderson 275 … Adam Dunn 273 … Jay Buhner 265 … Adam Dunn 264 … Pedro Alvarez 258 … Mark Reynolds 255 … Bo Jackson… Read more »

Doug
Doug
8 years ago
Reply to  Voomo Zanzibar

Highest SO/H ratio in a pre-expansion qualified season is only 1.11 by Pat Seerey in 1946, and he qualified right on the number with 477 PA. Only three other pre-expansion players (Vince DiMaggio 1938, Eddie Joost 1943, Gair Allie 1954) have more strikeouts than hits in a qualified season, with Joost and Allie also barely meeting the qualifying PAs (Joost and DiMaggio were briefly teammates on the 1939 Reds and started the last game of the season batting 2nd and 3rd in the order, striking out consecutively against the Bucs’ Ken Heintzelman to end the 6th inning; Heintzelman whiffed DiMaggio… Read more »

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
8 years ago
Reply to  Doug

In 1946 400 AB was the qualifier. Seerey had 404 AB.

Bryan O'Connor
Editor
8 years ago

Checking in after a long hiatus and I’m finding this thread fascinating, but missing one angle. The pitcher is almost always the weakest hitter on the team, but the pitcher’s spot in the lineup is not always occupied by a pitcher. With relievers entering games earlier and more often than ever, it’s very common for the first two PAs in the 9 (or 8) spot to go to a pitcher and the last two to go to pinch hitters. I’d guess that most teams have better hitters on their bench than their starting shortstop and catcher, so the 9 spot… Read more »

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
8 years ago

While browsing through baseballmusings.com I stumbled across a line-up analysis. One can enter a player’s OBP and SLG into a chart according to batting order position and the team’s runs per game average is calculated. The results listings presents charts of the 30 top and bottom batting orders. I arbitrarily selected the batting order stats for the 1990 NL (no DH and no inter-league play) and entered them into the chart. Of the top 30, all of the line-ups had the pitcher batting 8th. Bear in mind that the 1990 stats for the number 9 batter (usually the pitcher) also… Read more »

oneblankspace
8 years ago

Were you using the 1989-2002 or the 1959-2004 model? I tried the 1998 Cardinals with their seven regulars, and aggregates for catchers (.312/.354) and pitchers (with numbers from bref). For the 1989-02 version, the pitcher batted eight in the best lineups (McGwire was often in the #2 spot). For the 1959-04 model, the pitcher’s spot was either #9 or occasionally #6.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
8 years ago
Reply to  oneblankspace

I used the 1989-2002 model. Using the 1959-2004 model,the top 30 results always showed the pitcher batting last.

oneblankspace
8 years ago

When the Cardinals brought out this experiment in 1998, their first game was against the Houston Astros, managed by former pitcher Larry Dierker. Jack Buck asked Dierker in a pregame interview, “Were you ever good enough to hit eighth?” Dierker replied, “I wasn’t even good enough to hit ninth.” He did have two separate seasons where he hit over .195 (.226 in 1967, and .197 in 1974).

Daniel Longmire
Daniel Longmire
8 years ago

Not sure where to leave this comment, because there is still no Late-Season Oddities thread (make it so, Number One!), so this is as good a spot as any…

Baltimore’s Caleb Joseph has now reached 114 plate appearances this season without a solitary RBI. That is good for fifth place all-time in a complete season; the highest total is 150 PA by ???

Daniel Longmire
Daniel Longmire
8 years ago
Reply to  Doug

What is particularly odd is that Joseph accumulated 77 RBI in 630 PA over the previous two seasons.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
8 years ago

Daniel: I assume you are a PI non-subscriber. Make the PI run with PA equal to or greater than 94 and in ascending order and you will have your answer. Or you can use Fangraphs and an Excel spreadsheet. Joseph is currently in 6th place overall and 3rd among position players.

Daniel Longmire
Daniel Longmire
8 years ago

Doug and Richard, I should have known that you two would be all over this. 🙂 I don’t have a valid excuse to be a PI non-subscriber, since I’m on here every other week with an inquiry that could easily be answered with full access to the Play Index. That ascending order is very handy; I had stumbled across that technique before, but had forgotten about it.

oneblankspace
8 years ago

A couple entries for the Late-season oddities thread…

The Brewers scored in every inning they had to bat this afternoon, yet still only managed 11 runs. Is there a list of such games available?

Last Saturday, in a game where the Braves outhit the Cardinals 3-2, the Cardinals won 1-0 on an RBI single by Jaime Garcia, who went 8 IP for the win.

no statistician but
no statistician but
8 years ago
Reply to  oneblankspace

Here’s another: In the Yankees’ win over Boston last night, they used eight pitchers, none lasting more than two innings, but all seemed to be used strategically, as if Girardi were channeling an idea someone proposed here awhile back about bringing in a fresh pitcher each inning.