Quiz – what’s old is new again (solved)

What do a few modern pitchers have in common with several old-time hurlers? That’s for you to consider in Quiz #1 on this World Series off day.

Quiz #2 is entirely frivolous and inspired by the Fox network when they made mention that Game #4 was the first ever in a World Series with both starters having a surname starting with the letter V. Thus, your job in Quiz #2 is to determine the starting pitchers in a World Series game whose first and last initials can combine to form the words shown. Bolded and underlined words have more than one solution. How many other words can you come up with?

Rk Quiz #1 Quiz #2
1 Tim Lincecum JABS DARK DEAD
2 Clay Buchholz SEAS CARE PEAS
3 Dwight Gooden CRAB HEMP BASE
4 Dutch Leonard CLAN CREW DREW
5 Rube Foster CADS COPS DARN
6 Iron Davis REEK SECT LEND
7 Weldon Henley SHOD JELL ARMS
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Generated 10/27/2014.

Congratulations to John Autin on solving Quiz #1 and to several of our readers (particularly Luis Gomez, Steve, Scary Tuna and Richard Chester) on having some fun with Quiz #2. The answer to Quiz #1 was that only the quiz players authored a no-hit game for a pennant-winning team but failed to start a game in that year’s World Series. More after the jump.

Bonus questions (and answers):

  1. Greg Maddux has World Series games against two opposing starters with the initials OH (giving OHMG or Oh My God! – likely what that pitcher was feeling facing Maddux). Who were these two pitchers? (Orel Hershiser, Orlando Hernandez)
  2. What are the only pair of World Series starters with the same initials? (Don Drysdale vs. Dick Donovan, Game 3, 1959; also (Bullet) Joe Bush vs. Jack Bentley, Game 5, 1923)
  3. What are the only pair of World Series starters whose initials are reversed? (Oil Can Boyd vs. Bob Ojeda, Game 3, 1986)
  4. What are the only three pairs of World Series starters with alliterative initials (first and last initials the same)? (Don Drysdale vs. Dick Donovan as above; Rick Reuschel vs. Mike Moore, Game 2, 1989; Slim Sallee vs. Reb Russell, Game 5, 1917)

In all, there have been 33 no-hit games by pitchers on pennant-winning teams, including these ones by our quiz players.

Rk Player Date Tm Opp Rslt App,Dec IP H R BB SO
1 Tim Lincecum 2014-06-25 SFG SDP W 4-0 SHO9, W 9.0 0 0 1 6
2 Clay Buchholz 2007-09-01 BOS BAL W 10-0 SHO9, W 9.0 0 0 3 9
3 Dwight Gooden 1996-05-14 NYY SEA W 2-0 SHO9, W 9.0 0 0 6 5
4 Dutch Leonard 1918-06-03 BOS DET W 5-0 9.0 0 0 1 4
5 Rube Foster 1916-06-21 BOS NYY W 2-0 9.0 0 0 3 3
6 Iron Davis 1914-09-09 (2) BSN PHI W 7-0 9.0 0 0 5 4
7 Weldon Henley 1905-07-22 (1) PHA SLB W 6-0 9.0 0 0
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Generated 10/28/2014.

The final game on the list, from the 1905 season, was the only year that pitchers on both pennant winners had a no-hitter, as Henley’s feat was matched by the Giants’ Christy Mathewson.

Circumstances that led to our quiz players not getting a start in the World Series are varied.

  • Lincecum – dropped from the starting rotation late in the year; used only 6 times over his team’s last 33 games, and only once (so far) in the post-season
  • Buchholz – rookie debuting late in the season and not included on Boston’s post-season roster
  • Gooden – a reclamation project by the Yankees after missing all of the 1995 season; was used mainly as a 5th or 6th starter during the year and not included on the post-season roster
  • Leonard – left his team suddenly in mid-season to take a shipyard job and thereby become ineligible for the draft; found himself on a new team after the war ended
  • Foster – used regularly throughout the season but was reportedly suffering from a tired arm, as evidenced by a rough patch in mid-September; made one relief appearance in the WS
  • Davis – evidently a September call-up from which may be surmised that he wasn’t included on the post-season roster
  • Henley – used regularly throughout the year in a fifth starter role; it was not only Henley who did not get a WS start but also staff ace Rube Waddell who led the AL that year in Games, Wins, Strikeouts and ERA but was passed over in favor of youngster Andy Coakley in his first season as a regular in the rotation

Here are the solutions to the WS starting pitcher initial anagrams.

  • ARMS – Sal Maglie vs. Allie Reynolds, Game 4, 1951
  • BASE – Ed Summers vs. Babe Adams, Game 5, 1909
  • CADS – David Cone vs. Steve Avery, Game 6, 1992
  • CARE – Carl Erskine vs. Allie Reynolds, Game 1, 1953
  • CLAN – Charles Nagy vs. Al Leiter, Game 3, 1997
  • COPS – Stubby Overmire vs. Claude Passeau, Game 3, 1945
  • CRAB – Roger Clemens vs. Brian Anderson, Game 3, 2001; or Chief Bender vs. Red Ames, Game 6, 1911
  • CREW – Early Wynn vs. Roger Craig, Games 1 & 4, 1959
  • DARK – Dave Koslo vs. Allie Reynolds, Game 1, 1951
  • DARN – Ron Darling vs. Al Nipper, Game 4, 1986; or Don Newcombe vs. Allie Reynolds, Game 1, 1949
  • DEAD – Elden Auker vs. Dizzy Dean, Game 7, 1934
  • DREW – Ed Reulbach vs. Doc White, Game 2, 1906
  • HEMP – Howard Ehmke vs. Pat Malone, Game 5, 1929
  • JABS – Joe Blanton vs. Andy Sonnanstine, Game 4, 2008; or Jaoquin Andujar vs. Bret Saberhagen, Game 3, 1985
  • JELL – Eddie Lopat vs. Larry Jansen, Games 2 & 5, 1951
  • LEND – Don Newcombe vs. Eddie Lopat, Game 4, 1949
  • PEAS – Pete Alexander vs. Ernie Shore, Game 1, 1915
  • REEK – Ed Killian vs. Ed Reulbach, Game 1, 1908
  • SEAS – Scott Erickson vs. Steve Avery, Game 6, 1991
  • SECT – Tom Sturdivant vs. Carl Erskine, Game 4, 1956
  • SHOD – Storm Davis vs. Orel Hershiser, Games 2 & 5, 1988
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Luis Gomez
Luis Gomez
10 years ago

Bonus question number 1: Orlando “El Duque” Hernandez and Orel Hershiser.

Steve
Steve
10 years ago

CREW is Roger Craig v. Early Wynn 1959 Game 4 October 5, 1959

What are the only pair of World Series starters with the same initials? Dick Donovan v Don Drysdale 1959 Game 3 October 4, 1959

Steve
Steve
10 years ago

What are the only pair of World Series starters whose initials are reversed?
Bob Ojeda v Oil Can Boyd 1986 Game 3 October 21, 1986 BO-OB

Luis Gomez
Luis Gomez
10 years ago

JABS: Joaquin Andujar vs. Bret Saberhagen, game 3, 1985 World Series.

Scary Tuna
Scary Tuna
10 years ago
Reply to  Doug

Joe Blanton vs. Andy Sonnanstine, Game 4, 2008.

Steve
Steve
10 years ago

What are the only three pairs of World Series starters with alliterative initials (first and last initials the same)?
I only know of two
Slim Sallee v Reb Russell 1917 Game 5 October 13, 1917
Rick Reuschel v Mike Moore, 1989 Game 2 October 15, 1989

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
10 years ago
Reply to  Doug

You must be referring to Don Drysdale and Dick Donovan from post 2 above.

Red Ruffing and Dizzy Dean missed by one game in 1938.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
10 years ago
Reply to  Doug

Doug: Joe Bush and Jack Bentley faced each other in game 5 of the 1923 WS. Does Bush’s nickname of Bullet count?

bells
bells
10 years ago

I dunno about the quiz, but Tim Lincecum’s B-Ref page says he won the world series over the Royals in 2014. Huh, did Sean Foreman pull a Biff Tanner and get a sports almanac from his future self?

David Horwich
David Horwich
10 years ago
Reply to  bells

All the Giants players currently have a “W” in their 2014 WS stat line, and all the Royals players an “L”; before yesterday’s game, all the players for both teams had a “T”. So evidently it’s meant to indicate current status of the Series, not its future result.

bells
bells
10 years ago
Reply to  David Horwich

ahhh, I see. I hadn’t noticed that in previous days, but that makes more sense than some kind of glitch.

oneblankspace
oneblankspace
10 years ago
Reply to  bells

Posey and Blanco are also shown with rings in 2014.

Hosmer is shown with a Loss in the 2014 World Series, but his Gold Glove from 2013 is shown at 1b, DH, OF, and RF.

The Miami Gators are your 2015 AL champions.

(I started typing this last night but forgot to submit the comment.)

Scary Tuna
Scary Tuna
10 years ago

Here are some from your list, Doug, and a few others I’ve found: ARMS – Sal Maglie vs. Allie Reynolds, Game 4, 1951 CADS – David Cone vs. Steve Avery, Game 6, 1992 CARE – Carl Erskine vs. Allie Reynolds, Game 1, 1953 CHAD – Catfish Hunter vs. Al Downing, Game 4, 1973 CHAP – Cole Hamels vs. Andy Pettite, Game 3, 2009 CLAN – Charles Nagy vs. Al Leiter, Game 3, 1997 CRAB – Roger Clemens vs. Brian Anderson, Game 3, 2001 DARN – Ron Darling vs. Al Nipper, Game 4, 1986 RAMP – Mark Redman vs. Andy Pettite,… Read more »

Scary Tuna
Scary Tuna
10 years ago
Reply to  Scary Tuna

Here are some other combinations to find:

ABLE, CASH, EWER, JAGS, MENS, PERL, PERM, SEER, and the only matchup featuring the first four letters of the alphabet.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
10 years ago
Reply to  Scary Tuna

ABCD match-up: Chief Bender vs. Al Demaree, game 4 of the 1913 WS.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
10 years ago

ABLE match-up = Eldon Auker vs. Bill Lee, game 3, 1935 WS.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
10 years ago
Reply to  Scary Tuna

JELL = Ed Lopat vs. Larry Jansen, game 5, 1951 WS.
I finally fixed my spreadsheet to easily find any combination or permutation of letters.

bells
bells
10 years ago

Gahd, after forever searching through likely candidates. CADS – Steve Avery v. David Cone in game 6 of the 1992 WS. That’s enough for tonight.

bells
bells
10 years ago
Reply to  bells

ha, can’t even make a proper sentence, definitely time for bed. Supposed to read ‘…I finally found one’ after the first sentence. Ah, and I got beat to the punch by a minute!

John Autin
Editor
10 years ago
Reply to  Doug

On Quiz #1, at first all I had was that all seven pitchers threw a regular-season shutout for a pennant winner, then didn’t start in the World Series.

Then I remembered that there are shutouts, and there are shutouts. All seven threw a no-hitter for a pennant winner, but didn’t start in the Series.

Doug
Doug
10 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

Ding, ding, ding.

In fact, Lincecum and Foster are the only ones to even make an appearance in that year’s WS.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
10 years ago

DEAD = Eldon Auker vs. Dizzy Dean, game 7, 1934 WS.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
10 years ago

Per Doug’s request here are some I came up with. SECT, MARS, CHER, HAWN and LAPD. I did not find DOUG.