Quiz – Baker’s Half-Dozen, minus one-half (Solved)

It’s time for another thrilling installment of “John Isn’t Doug,” in which I attempt to stump you readers long enough for Billy Hamilton to circle the bases!

 

These six men comprise all those in MLB history with a certain game-based feat that has two essential criteria:

What is their distinction?

For bonus points, explain:

  1. why Hernandez stands out far above the others; and
  2. who became the 7th on this list when the first pitch was thrown in Wednesday’s game.

Hints and discovered facts:

  • Each game was a postseason clincher (identified by RJ), a necessary but not sufficient condition for the broader criterion.
  • “Feat” was perhaps a misnomer. Some had positive WPA impact in the game, some had negative WPA. One had no measurable impact. One didn’t even bat, but had big negative WPA.
  • Smalley did it in his farewell game. (Identified by Artie Z.)
  • Hernandez did it in the 1982 WS finale. (Identified by Voomo.)
  • Cummings did not score a run in his game.

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We have a winner! Insert Name Here put it all together, just beating Richard Chester to the post. Those six men played in a postseason sudden-death game on their birthday. Richard was the first to identify the birthday angle. RJ was the first to identify the series clincher angle, and Richard put those two together, but “clincher” alone didn’t quite do the trick.

The seventh player, who joined the list tonight, was Bucs leadoff man Starling Marte. (One could argue that he “played in” the game as soon as the starting lineup wase submitted to the umpire, rather than my “first pitch” specification.)

Keith Hernandez stands far above the pack in terms of game impact (pending Marte’s remaining work). He had a tying 2-run single in the home 6th inning, pushing the lead run to 3rd. Hernandez also had another hit and two walks in the game. Of the other five, only Saenz had even one hit, same for RBI, and no others scored.

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Doug
Editor
11 years ago

Are we talking regular or post-season?

Doug
Editor
11 years ago

Not the answer but Midre Cummings, Allan Lewis and Earl McNeeley are the only players with two games in the same World Series scoring a run as a pinch-runner.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
11 years ago

Which Roy Smalley, elder or younger?

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
11 years ago

Whoops, never mind.

Doug
Editor
11 years ago

Hmm. Patek was 0 for 5 in post-season steal attempts.

Voomo Zanzibar
Voomo Zanzibar
11 years ago

Midre Cummings scored the tying run in Game 7 of the 2001 WS.
Betcha that’s a part of it…

Voomo Zanzibar
Voomo Zanzibar
11 years ago
Reply to  Voomo Zanzibar

Keith Hernandez DROVE IN the tying run in Game 7 in 1982

and……

hmmmm…

his hit made it 2-3 in Game 7, 1986
and his sac fly made it 6-3…

Voomo Zanzibar
Voomo Zanzibar
11 years ago
Reply to  Voomo Zanzibar

Eh, scrap all that……….

Doug
Editor
11 years ago
Reply to  Voomo Zanzibar

But John said @4 that Midre did NOT score in the game in question.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
11 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

I guess you mean the first pitch thrown in tonight’s game (which is already under way).

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
11 years ago

I posted this prior to viewing latest hints.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
11 years ago

Is it necessarily post season? John said that it turns out all of the games took place in October, indicating that it may have been a regular season game in October. Maybe it has something to do with the last game of the season.

Artie Z.
Artie Z.
11 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

I would guess the farewell game is by Smalley, though I have no idea what he did.

RJ
RJ
11 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

Right, so it being postseason clincher has to be one the criteria.

Insert Name Here
Insert Name Here
11 years ago

Well obviously, Keith Hernandez stands out because he’s the only one to appear on Seinfeld!

Insert Name Here
Insert Name Here
11 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

Why, that would be the famous/infamous (depending on the speaker’s baseball allegiances) “Game Six,” of course!

Insert Name Here
Insert Name Here
11 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

Was the broader criterion that it was the winner-take-all game of the series (i.e. it was the nth game of a best-of-n series)?

RJ
RJ
11 years ago

Colour me stumped. If I have the games right, then Cummings was a pinch runner and was caught stealing in his game. Samalley pinch hit, walked and was pinch ran for in his. In Maybry’s, he came in as a defensive replacement and later struck out. How any of this reconciles with anything Hernandez might have done…

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
11 years ago

He participated in a series clincher on his birthday.

RJ
RJ
11 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

In his first postseason? I was right behind Richard on the birthdays.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
11 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

I ran the PI for Postseason Sudden Death Games on Birthday and came up with those 6 names.

bstar
bstar
11 years ago

…and Shelby Miller would be the seventh guy on the list as his birthday is today.

RJ
RJ
11 years ago
Reply to  bstar

Actually it’s Starling Marte. Miller’s birthday is the 10th.

Insert Name Here
Insert Name Here
11 years ago

Let the record show I identified the Sudden Death criterion @38.

bstar
bstar
11 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

Ok, thanks, I thought it had to be a Cardinal since only the Redbirds on the field and the Pirates lead-off hitter would qualify for a game played after the first pitch (is that actually correct?) , but I was looking too far into the details.

I am taping the game and have no idea who was actually starting for the Cards and saw Miller’s birthday date…and lost my head.

Hartvig
Hartvig
11 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

And to be completely fair to Gibby, it should be pointed out that all 3 of his starts in both the ’67 & ’68 series were complete games and his ’64 start came on only 2 days rest following a game 5 complete game victory.

In those 3 World Series Gibson started 9 games, completing 8 of them and going 8 innings in the 9th, with a final record of 7-2.

Pretty sure we’ll never see that again.

no statistician but
no statistician but
11 years ago
Reply to  Hartvig

I don’t remember too much being made of this at the time, but in the 1964 Series, I just noticed, while looking at Gibson’s performance, that the two starting third basemen were Ken and Clete Boyer. Any ideas about how often that sort of thing has happened?

no statistician but
no statistician but
11 years ago

To answer my own query, in part, Bob and Irish Meusel faced off in the 1921-23 Classics.

Lawrence Azrin
Lawrence Azrin
11 years ago

@52/nsb,

Darn, I gotta type faster!! (see the time of my #53).

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
11 years ago

The first brothers to face each other in a WS were Doc Johnston of the Indians and his brother Jimmy of the Dodgers in 1920.

Lawrence Azrin
Lawrence Azrin
11 years ago

Brothers playing against each other in the World Series: 1920- Doc Johnston (all 1B) of the Cleveland Indians played against Jimmy Johnston of the Brooklyn Robins (mostly 3B, a bit of RF and SS). 1921, 1922, 1923- Bob Meusel of the Yankees played against Irish Meusel of the Giants. Irish was almost entirely a LFer for the Giants in 1921-23 (one game in RF), while Bob played a large majority of his games in RF in 1921-23, switching off with The Babe (but played more games over his career in LF). I think if you just called them “career corner… Read more »

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
11 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

Other brothers who were WS teammates;
Felipe Alou and Matty, 1962
Jesse Barnes and Virgil,1922
George Brett and Ken,1980
Dizzy Dean and Paul, 1934
Paul Waner and Lloyd, 1927

Doug
Doug
11 years ago

Pedro Alvarez set a new record with a streak of 6 games with an RBI to start his post-season career, breaking the mark of 5 by Nomar Garciaparra in 1998-99.

It’s also the 3rd longest RBI streak to start a single post-season, trailing only Ryan Howard (8 games in 2009) and A-Rod (7 games, also in 2009).