Residue from Games 1 and 2 / Chatterbox for Game 3

Some folks keep writing that the Giants have gotten the breaks so far.

Breaks? Don’t break my heart!

For sure, just about every close or unusual play has come out in SF’s favor. But let’s review those plays:

Game 1:

Game 2:

  • A three-act drama to nip Prince Fielder — Blanco’s recovery on the carom, Marco Scutaro’s great relay and Buster Posey’s swift tag.
  • A leaping stab by Pablo Sandoval in Game 2, taking extra bases away from Miguel Cabrera with a man on 1st and no outs.
  • Omar Infante getting picked off by Madison Bumgarner and almost beating the throw from Brandon Belt.
  • Blanco’s bunt single in Game 2 that rolled dead down the 3rd base line, loading the bags with no outs in a scoreless game.
  • Pagan just beating a perfect throw by Gerald Laird to swipe 2nd with one out in the 8th.

But when we talk about breaks, don’t we mean luck, bad calls and the like? Not one of these plays fits under that banner. Yes, Pagan got an extra base when the ball hit the bag — but that was already sure to be a single. And maybe the exact same bunt by Blanco would go foul two out of three times; but even if it had done, he’d still be at bat with a 3-and-2 count, 2 on and no outs. The umpires’ calls all held up on replay. Everything else about those plays is good old-fashioned execution by the Giants — including Pagan spoiling three 2-strike pitches before hitting that chopper (good things can’t happen if you don’t hit the ball), Zito making contact on a 2-2 pitch (see above), and Blanco, facing a bunt defense, laying one down so well that they had no play.

The Giants are playing great, winning baseball.

Meanwhile, here are Detroit’s biggest mistakes in Game 2:

Mistake #1: It’s beating a dead bison by now, but it was foolish of Gene Lamont to wave Prince Fielder around third with no outs. Not only does the situation call for caution in general; not only does Prince Fielder running look nothing like a gazelle; but Gregor Blanco had the ball and was into his throwing motion when Fielder was still at least three steps from 3rd base.

A point about run expectancy from David Schoenfield’s SweetSpot blog:

According to … Tom Tango’s run-scoring matrix, an average team would be expected to score about 2.05 runs with runners at second and third and no outs; with a runner on second and one out, the average run production is about 0.7 runs. That data is from 1993 through 2010, so the run-scoring environment is a little lower now, and of course you would have to adjust based on upcoming hitters and so forth. Still, Lamont’s decision was about a 1.3-run decision. Fair or not, he made the wrong one.

Another aspect of that matrix: The chance that at least one run will score from a 3rd-and-2nd, no-out situation is about 0.87. With a man on 2nd and one out, the chance is about 0.42, less than half. Even if we deduct for the specific hitters coming up, and don’t add on for the near certainty of SF playing the infield back in the top of the 2nd of a tie game, I figure at least a 0.75 chance of at least one run from the first situation, and maybe 0.35 from the second. So the upside of sending him is a gain of about 0.25 in the chance of scoring at least one run — but the downside is more like 0.40 if he’s thrown out.

I wonder how many third-base coaches know those numbers.

  • Why was Lamont so close to 3rd base when he issued the go code? Why didn’t he set up further down the baseline, as most coaches do on that kind of play?
Mistake #2: Delmon Young not getting to 3rd on that play. He was past 2nd base when Scutaro took the relay, but as far as I can tell he just stood and watched the play; he seemed to have no thought of taking 3rd.

Mistake #3: LHP Drew Smyly walking LHB Brandon Belt, then falling behind 3-and-1 on LHB Gregor Blanco, who obviously wanted to bunt. When an opponent wants to give you an out, with their #8-9 hitters coming up, you have to be able to take it. The count mattered because, on 3-1, you’re a little less sure of a bunt attempt, so the corner men can’t charge as quickly. Watch the clip from the 0:18 mark to see Miguel Cabrera playing in, but not breaking in until the bunt goes down. Blanco did a great job on three counts: he didn’t square away until Smyly was well into his motion, delaying Cabrera’s break; he got an excellent jump out of the batter’s box as soon as he made contact; and of course he directed it to the perfect spot. In his regular-season career, Blanco has bunted 76 times, resulting in 33 hits and 14 sacrifices.

  • Cabrera and Gerald Laird had no option save to hope it went foul. But the play gives a lesson about modern MLB infields: Advances in field drainage technology, implemented with the wave of new ballparks in the last 20 years,  have created some fields that don’t slope away from the middle towards the sides, the way that most of us are used to. Rollers up the line are less likely to curve foul — especially bunts, which usually don’t have the sidespin that a full swing can impart.

Mistake #4: Smyly walking Angel Pagan to start the 8th, then not holding him close enough to prevent a one-out stolen base.

Mistake #5: Octavio Dotel walking Buster Posey on four pitches, loading the bases with one out (all on walks), then not being able to strike out Hunter Pence after an 0-and-2 start. During the regular season, Dotel:

  • walked only 4 of 145 RHBs;
  • walked just 2 of 57 first batters faced;
  • issued just one walk that advanced another runner (man on 1st);
  • held RHBs to a .197 batting average (3rd straight year under .200);
  • held all batters to .197 with RISP and 3 for 23 with 2 or more runners on;
  • held all batters to .168 with 2 strikes (45% strikeouts); and
  • allowed 3 sac flies in 32 chances.

Sigh.

____________________

In franchise history, the Giants have won the first two games of a World Series four times, and went on to win all four Series in dominant fashion — 2010 (4-1), 1954 (4-0), 1933 (4-1), 1922 (4-0). They did the same after their only 2-0 edge in any other postseason series, the 2002 LCS (4-1).

Detroit has lost the first two games of a WS just once before, in 1908, and they lost that Series, 4-1. They also lost the LCS in 1972 (3-2), ’87 (4-1) and 2011 (4-2) after dropping the first two contests.

Jim Leyland has been down 0-2 in the 1992 and 2011 LCS, without surviving either one.

The last time Detroit won it all, they won games 3-4-5 at home, after sweeping the ALCS.

Guess which one of those straws I’m clutching at?

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scott-53
scott-53
12 years ago

I’m guessing Detroit to win at least two at home.

oneblankspace
oneblankspace
12 years ago

In 1907, Detroit lost the Series 4-0 with one tie. Somehow I think they fell behind 2-0 in that one.

Ed
Ed
12 years ago

Blanco came into the game 4-7 against Sanchez with a triple. So now he has two triples against Sanchez in only 10 at bats.

And Omar Infante came into the game 7-11 against Vogelsong. Now he’s 8-12. I always find it interesting when a particular hitter does well (or poorly) against a particular pitcher. (and I’m a bit surprised that Leyland didn’t move Infants up in the lineup. Sure he’s not a great hitter overall but he owns Vogelsong).

Ed
Ed
12 years ago
Reply to  Ed

And now Infante’s 9-13 in his career against Vogelsong!

Larry
Larry
12 years ago

Eight year old boy watching the World Series with his father:
“Daddy, what is reptile dysfunction? Is there something wrong with their snake? Daddy, will the snake die after four hours”?

Nothing like baseball, hot dogs, apple pie and gettin’ laid.

Larry
Larry
12 years ago

“Daddy, you know the pirate who takes the pretty lady to the party downstairs where she sits on his lap, does he have reptile dysfunction?”

Jim Bouldin
12 years ago

OK, now I’m starting to get nervous about this whole thing.

Robbs
Robbs
12 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

Russel Bellamy (Denard’s replacement 0-8.

Jim Bouldin
12 years ago

I like the Giants–they have a number of interesting players.

But Hunter Pence is just plain frightening. Guy looks like a meth addict.

Larry
Larry
12 years ago
Reply to  Jim Bouldin

It looks like he is destined to be a journeyman now at age 29. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him bounce around like Dotel for the rest of his career. He lives with his Dad in SF, so he probably doesn’t do drugs. But he needs to get his thyroid checked

Voomo Zanzibar
Voomo Zanzibar
12 years ago
Reply to  Jim Bouldin

Yeah, I’d never seen him until he came to SF – I commented then that he was very very twitchy. Worst 100 rbi guy since Joe Carter, though apparently a terrific motivational speaker.
________________________________

This from espn.com:

They never trailed in the AL championship series sweep of the Yankees, but have never led against the Giants.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
12 years ago

Between Sandoval and Cabrera, their combined weight of 480 lbs. looks like the highest combined weight for opposing third-basemen in a WS.

Larry
Larry
12 years ago

Speaking of WS third basemen, MLB.com had an article about Clete Boyer. He thought for sure that the Yanks would walk the lefty McCovey so Terry (?) could face the righty Orlando Cepeda. Clete said he was shaking in his cleats that Cepeda would pull a sharp one to him at third that would eat him up and make him the goat of the series. He said he even had a flash forward of what the cartoon of him with goat horns would look like in the newspaper. So they faced McCovey and Bobbie Richardson was the hero. I never… Read more »

Phil Gaskill
Phil Gaskill
12 years ago
Reply to  Larry

Wow, that’s funny. Clete Boyer was quite possibly the best defensive third baseman in the majors in the early ’60s. Better than his brother (not offensively, of course, just defensively), better than that guy in Baltimore, better than Davenport, better than everybody.

Jim Bouldin
12 years ago

Great, and now it’s Lincecum out of the pen. That’s just not fair.

Vogelsong, gotta give him credit, terrific outing.

Robbs
Robbs
12 years ago
Reply to  Jim Bouldin

Now I know how Yankee fans felt watching the ALCS. Rare hard hit balls are right at someone. My three main teams (Lions, Tigers, U-M) seasons could effectively end in a 27 hour period.

Jim Bouldin
12 years ago

GD IT BERRY. Pathetic.

Mike L
Mike L
12 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

Fascinating tidbit about that 1966 World Series. Both the Dodgers and the Orioles fell apart the following year. The the Dodgers were 73-89 and the Ohs were 75-86. The Orioles pythag was 88-73, which is an even greater deviation than this year.

Jason Z
12 years ago

Detroit doesn’t need to win four straight. They just need to win
tomorrow.

Someday it will happen in a World Series.

e pluribus munu
e pluribus munu
12 years ago
Reply to  Jason Z

Right attitude for Tiger fans, Jason. One game at a time, and a chance to make history.

This blog seems to tilt the Tigers’ way (I contribute), but this is all very sweet for Giants fans. (On the other hand, I always used to tell my sons in little league that losing is what builds character – those kids had character coming out of their ears. . . .)

Jason Z
12 years ago

I am not a Tigers fan (Yankees), but I am rooting for the Tigers. I went to the World Series back in 06. The games in St. Louis. A good friend of mine is The Mayor’s first cousin. We decided to go 2 days prior to game 3. Had a great time. It was awesome hanging out at the team hotel and just being there. I remember one day we went to the mall. Sean’s parents, his aunt, uncle, cousins, wife, children, me and one other friend. What I will never forget is a boy about 15 or 16 came… Read more »

Hartvig
Hartvig
12 years ago
Reply to  Jason Z

So I’m watching the game and on our local Fox station up pops a winter weather advisory scrolling across the bottom of the screen just as the bottom of the 9th starts. The local news is on so I’m flipping back and forth to see if there’s anything on about the weather (which hadn’t been predicted at all). Peralta is about to come up to the plate and I flip to the news. It’s a commercial break so I wait about a minute and the news comes back on and it’s sports. And the first thing the sportscaster says and… Read more »

RJ
RJ
12 years ago

That’s 4 shutouts in SF’s last 7 World Series games, with another allowing only one run.

Jason Z
12 years ago
Reply to  RJ

The old axiom of winning with pitching and defense serves
the Giants well.

If Max does his thing tomorrow night, I would expect Verlander
to send this series back to the SF.

Larry
Larry
12 years ago

What a crappy World Series. What is the highest Win Expectancy the Tigers have attained? The good part is, if a less than stellar team like the Giants can dominate the World Series then my Astros are just a couple of years away when their young kick-ass talent makes the show. In two years, I don’t think there would be a single player other than Buster Posey I would want on my team.

RJ
RJ
12 years ago
Reply to  Larry

Other than the entire pitching staff? If the 2010 Giants showed anything, it’s that it hardly matters who’s batting for you when the pitchers are putting up zeros every inning.

Jim Bouldin
12 years ago
Reply to  RJ

I’d take a guy like Brandon Crawford any day. And Pagan. And Sandoval.

birtelcom
Editor
12 years ago
Reply to  Larry

Peak Win Expectancies for the Tigers:
Game 1: 54%, after Cabrera walks to make it two on and one out in the top of the first.
Game 2: 56%, after Cabrera walks to start the top of the 7th.
game 3; 59%, after Cabrera singles to make it two on and one out in the bottom of the first.

Miguel standing on first — it’s all been downhill from there.

Larry
Larry
12 years ago
Reply to  birtelcom

Thanks, Birtelcom! That adds a number to quantify just how one sided it has been

Jason Z
12 years ago

Tie goes to the runner Larry.

Jason Z
12 years ago

The Giants agree with you about Posey. I believe he is the only starter
from 2010 to start game 1 of this World Series.

RJ
RJ
12 years ago
Reply to  Jason Z

Correct, although Sandoval was a regular during the season and only benched due to poor form in the postseason.

tag
tag
12 years ago

John,

Great movie link. I know you did it because it features none other than Gary’s own Mladen Sekulovich, a fellow steelworker whom my aunt actually dated at Emerson high in 1930. (We still make fun of her for it.)

And sorry about the Tigers’ woes, but it’s great to see Timmy literally pitching in after the disastrous season he suffered. He’s got Kimbrel K numbers in relief and the change has been falling off the table.

kds
kds
12 years ago
Reply to  tag

Making fun of your 96+ year old aunt! She should box your ears. Following baseball shouldn’t contribute to the delinquency of a nephew, but there exceptions, I guess.

tag
tag
12 years ago
Reply to  kds

Believe me, she gives it right back – still. But she can’t box my ears because I tower over her. It’s her daughters who are the real tormenters anyway, making all kinds of rude comments about Mladen’s schnozz. I’m only good for a little piling on with a few “Buddy boys.”

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
12 years ago

And if the Yankees had won the AL pennant Game 4 may not have played until early November.

birtelcom
Editor
12 years ago

Fewest total runs scored by a team in a World Series:
2, 1966 Dodgers (2 runs in Game 1, then shut out three times, by Jim Palmer, Dave McNally and Wally Bunker)
3, 1905 Athletics (3 runs in game 2, shut out in the other four games, three by Mathewson, once by McGinnity)
4, 19663 Yankees
5, 1950 Phillies

The Tigers’ .220 SLG so far would over a full World Series be the fourth lowest team SLG in WS history, higher than only those 1905 A’s and 1966 Dodgers, and the 1969 Orioles.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
12 years ago
Reply to  birtelcom

The 1966 Yankees were a long way from the WS.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
12 years ago

Sorry epm, I posted this before I read your follow-up post.

e pluribus munu
e pluribus munu
12 years ago

Litt typo, belcom: 1963 Yankees.

The ’05 A’s and ’50 Phillies were underdogs, but both the ’63 Yankees and ’66 Dodgers came into the Series as heavy favorites in my memory (I recall speculation of a Yankees sweep in ’63 – sweet!). But the futility of the Dodgers in ’66 against an unheralded O’s team will be very hard to match: one of those runs came on four walks, the last of which was followed by 33.1 scoreless innings.

e pluribus munu
e pluribus munu
12 years ago

Sorry – I lost the ‘irt’ in birtelcom.

Doug
Doug
12 years ago

What about Leyland playing the infield in, in the 2nd inning? If that doesn’t send the wrong message to your hitters (unless he was trying to make them mad).

After the game, he justified his strategy by saying that (in his mind) he was gaining more than he was giving up. Unconving rationale – would hgave been better to say he did it to light a fire under his hitters.

scott-53
scott-53
12 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

Only happened one time from 1938 thru 2002.(65 years)

kds
kds
12 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

1921 and 2003, the Yankees lost the Series both times. Every other team with such a streak won.

scott-53
scott-53
12 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

All games were 1-2-3 or 4.

Doug
Doug
12 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

Austin also might have considered diving on Scutaro’s game-winning hit in game 4. Tough to judge from the head-on angle on TV, but it didn’t look like the ball dropped very far in front of Austin who also didn’t appear to be charging it especially hard.

Jimbo
Jimbo
12 years ago
Reply to  Doug

I agree that not diving on that Crawford single is just ridiculous. I don’t think he could’ve made a decent effort at the Scutaro single, BUT

On the Scutaro single, I don’t understand why the outfielders are deep enough to allow a single like that. That hit by Scutaro is exactly like most of his hits. He rarely ever drives a ball over the outfielders heads.

The outfielders should’ve been shallow enough to not allow a game winning single such as that textbook Scutaro single IMO.

Jason Z
12 years ago

Whether he dives or not, he must keep that
ball in front of him. To let that ball
get past him was the biggest mistake on
that play. It looks like he wasn’t sure
what to do. The angle he took made me think
that he intended to dive, but then when he
did not, he was not in position to even
block it. The indecision was the killer IMO.

e pluribus munu
e pluribus munu
12 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

I believe this is the first ten-year stretch in which there have been four Series sweeps (in this case, within 9 seasons).

A good night for the Giants fans on HHS!

Doug
Doug
12 years ago

There were 5 WS sweeps from 1998 to 2007.

There were also 4 WS sweeps from 1989 to 1999 (11 years, but only 10 series).

e pluribus munu
e pluribus munu
12 years ago
Reply to  Doug

Wonder how I missed that. Must have been the tears.

Mark in Sydney
Mark in Sydney
12 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

Though I don’t understand why they credit credit Casilla with the win for hitting Infante and then getting Laird to ground out. Surely, if there was any justice in these things, the win was with Affeldt…

Doug
Editor
12 years ago
Reply to  Mark in Sydney

Mark,

Casilla is credited with the win because:
– he entered the game with the score tied and was removed from the game with the lead, thus becoming the “pitcher of record”
– the Giants never surrendered the lead after Casilla left the game, so Casilla remained the pitcher of record, thus getting the win

Mark in Sydney
Mark in Sydney
12 years ago
Reply to  Doug

Hey, Doug. Yeah, I get the “official” reasoning, just saying it is wrong 🙂

When Casilla was lifted, it was still 3-3. His contribution 5 pitches, 3 balls, one hit batter and a ground out, against the bottom of the Detroit lineup. Affeldt blew away Cabrera, Fielder, Young and Dirks – the meat of the Detroit order – and got Peralta, in the 8th and 9th. Tip of my hat goes to Mr Affeldt. SC gets the “win” but JA is the true winner of this one in my book.

Still, I like the overall result 🙂

RJ
RJ
12 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

Commiserations John and all the other Tigers fans on HHS. A pity we didn’t get to see Verlander fight back in game 5.

Doug
Editor
12 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

Textbook win except for Scutaro running into the 3rd out in the 10th inning. One of the Giants’ few “brain cramps”.

Jimbo
Jimbo
12 years ago
Reply to  Doug

It’s not like Sandoval was going to beat out that grounder, so all he did was eliminate the chance that Cabrera would make a throwing error. no?

Doug
Doug
12 years ago
Reply to  Jimbo

Exactly. Force Cabrera to make the long throw. Better than just offering up yourself as an out.

Luis Gomez
Luis Gomez
12 years ago

Congrats to all the Giants fans. The baseball fan in me loves to watch the reactions and emotions after a World Series win, even if they are the Giants.

I am so happy for Sergio Romo. He played in the local amateur leagues before being signed by the Giants. I hope he closes for Team Mexico during next year´s WBC.

Now, back to Winter baseball.

Jason Z
12 years ago

Ditto.

It is always a pleasure to watch good baseball.

The Giants with great pitching and defense play
my favorite brand of baseball.

I am just sorry that it is over. I really wanted
to see Justin Verlander get another shot.

This is the feeling I get every year after the
World Series. Baseball at its pinnacle, then
it is over.

I wonder what Melky Cabrera is thinking?

107 days until pitcher and catchers report.

Jason Z
12 years ago

I can see the vanity plate on Pablo’s new car now.

MVP WS 12

Jason Z
12 years ago

For the sixth time in the last seven years, the team with the longer layoff between the LCS and World Series has lost. We just saw one of the greatest pitching performances by a team in World Series history. The New York Giants in 1905 gave up 13 hits in winning the last three games of the second World Series against Connie Mack’s A’s. The Baltimore Orioles gave up 14 hits in the last three games in 1966 (all shutouts), to complete a four game sweep of the LA Dodgers. The San Francisco Giants gave up 12 hits in the… Read more »

Doug
Editor
12 years ago
Reply to  Jason Z

For the series, Detroit’s 20 hits appears to be the second lowest total to the Dodgers 17 hits in 1966.

Jacob
Jacob
12 years ago
Reply to  Jason Z

As a Tigers fan who suffered through th malaise of ’06 this “layoff theory” has been on top of my mind this week – especially with the way this series played out, after EVERYBODY predicted the Tigers to win. (Also shades of CIN-OAK 1990, btw) I know armchair psychology has no place in sabermetrics, but it’s easy to construct a plausible explanation for this phenomenon: 1. The team sweeping the LCS will feel a great sense of accomplishment, exhilaration even. 2. ‘Focus on the task at hand,’ coach will say, ‘we’re not there yet’. However, there is no task at… Read more »

Alan
Alan
12 years ago

Well, I gotta say, that WAS fun. I’m out here in SF, a huge Giants fan, and its been Orange everywhere for weeks: at the office, out on the street, at the supermarket, wherever you go; it’s been Giants this, and Giants that. I got to attend the 1st place clinching game in September, and then went to an NLCS game, and I’ve been glued to the set otherwise. I loved the bars for playoff games, it was so spontaneous to be analyzing plays and swapping hilarities with friends and perfect strangers alike. Playoff baseball is a great ice-breaker. Tonight… Read more »

Mark in Sydney
Mark in Sydney
12 years ago
Reply to  Alan

I remember that beginning of the season time when they were just scraping their wins together. But they were winning and, in the end, that got them over the line. Quite how, I am not sure… Still shaking my head at how they got past the Reds, in particular.

Doug
Doug
12 years ago

Appears that Ryan Theriot is first player since Bill Skowron in 1962-63 to play on WS winners for different teams in consecutive seasons. In both cases, the first year was a 7-game series and the next was a sweep.

Wally Schang, Stuffy McInnis and Lonnie Smith played on WS winners for 3 different teams. Any others that anyone knows about?

On the flip side, Marquis Grissom (1996-97) and Goose Goslin (1933-34) and maybe some others played on WS losers for different teams in consecutive seasons.

zafrom
zafrom
12 years ago
Reply to  Doug

Among the other others is Don Baylor, 1986 with Boston (L), 1987 with Minnesota (W), and 1988 with Oakland (L).

Lawrence Azrin
Lawrence Azrin
12 years ago
Reply to  zafrom

Is Baylor the only MLB player to play in the WS his last three MLB years?

Lawrence Azrin
Lawrence Azrin
12 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

Well – D-oh!! I forgot to check Yankees players.

Joe Dimaggio also played in the WS his last three MLB years,I’m sure there are others like #79 above.

Jason Z
12 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

Lou Gherig, 1936-38.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
12 years ago
Reply to  Doug

Doug: On Baseball Reference’ Leaderboards there is a list of players with the Most Championship Rings and their teams are listed. You have to scroll way down to the bottom of the page. There are several players with rings from 3 teams. Of course appearances with WS losers don’t show up/

Doug
Doug
12 years ago

Thanks Richard, I’ll take a look.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
12 years ago
Reply to  Doug

P Joe Ostrowski’s last three years were on the 1950-1952 Yankees.

Doug
Doug
12 years ago
Reply to  Doug

To complete the list of players to play for the winning WS team with 3 different franchises, can add Bullet Joe Bush, Jack Morris and Dave Stewart.

Morris, not Bill Skowron, is also the last player before Ryan Theriot to play on WS winners for different teams in consecutive seasons.

Thanks to Richard Chester for this link.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/leaders_most_rings.shtml

brp
brp
12 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

In Miggy’s defense, I sure wasn’t thinking fastball down the pipe on that pitch either.

Jim Bouldin
12 years ago

Congratulations to the Giants and their fans for a terrific season. That team plays baseball like it was meant to be played. The Tigers are a good, but not great, team, as their season long struggle just to get past the White Sox showed, and they had a whole number of slumps like they just displayed. They played the A’s well–that was a great series and could have gone either way, and were fortunate to catch the Yankees mired in a horrible hitting slump. The 5 day layoff probably affected them but so it goes, and the Giants would have… Read more »

Jim Bouldin
12 years ago

I have a couple of questions that the more knowledgeable hereabouts might be able to answer:

1. Is it April yet?
2. What do we do until it is?
3. Is it April yet?
4. What do NFL and NBA stand for?

scott-53
scott-53
12 years ago
Reply to  Jim Bouldin

1. No
2. Don’t know
3. No
4.National Football League and National Basketball Association. They include teams from the AFL,ABA and AAFC. Possibly more.

Ed
Ed
12 years ago
Reply to  scott-53

I believe the NFL officially changed their name to the No Fun League. 🙂

Mike L
Mike L
12 years ago
Reply to  Jim Bouldin

Jim, Not April yet. October, and there’s the election in eight days, there’s random hot stove debates, and, and, and…….a cold and barren winter reminiscent of a black and white Ingmar Bergman movie (and without the distraction of Liv Ullmann or Ingrid Bergmann). It’s not good.

Jim Bouldin
12 years ago
Reply to  Mike L

On the positive side, there is a World Baseball Classic next year, so the winter layoff will be shorter than usual.

And I imagine the discussions when the AL MVP is announced ought to be good for a couple days of distraction.

scott-53
scott-53
12 years ago
Reply to  Jim Bouldin

The favorites to win the World Baseball Classic

Dominican Republic +200

Japan +250

United States +250

Cuba +900

The other 12 teams are at +1200 or higher. Starts in February if I’m not mistaken. Japan won the first two in 2006 and 2009.

scott-53
scott-53
12 years ago
Reply to  Jim Bouldin

Jim,

Here’s a thought for what we do until April. This site has a chat page. The NBA season starts today. The NFL is closing in on week 10. Seattle Seahawks made the NFL playoffs with a 7-9 record once. Teams have missed the NFL playoffs with 10-6 records. The site is called HIGH HEAT STATS. Both the NFL and NBA have better television ratings at playoff time than MLB. (High Heat). Anyone got stats for another sport??? Chat button is at the top of the page.

scott-53
scott-53
12 years ago
Reply to  scott-53

152 days until opening day according to (baseball reference.com)

Jim Bouldin
12 years ago

We could also spend many hours discussing the earth-shattering finding of Tim McCarver that Max Scherzer has developed a pitch that “moves in two different planes”. If we ask nicely we should be able to get Tim himself to explain the physics of that.

Jim Bouldin
12 years ago

Most questionable moves made by Leyland in this series that I can see:

1. Berry instead of Infante in the #2 spot in games 3 and 4. That ended up hurting big time.

2. Starting Garcia over Dirks in games 1 and 2.

3. Not using Alburquerque in relief.

Ed
Ed
12 years ago
Reply to  Jim Bouldin

Jim – I agree re: Infante, particularly for game 3. As I pointed out above in posts #5 and #9, Infante’s owned Vogelsong. He really should have hit higher in game 3.

Ed
Ed
12 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

November 15th. I’m still not 100% convinced that Cabrera will win. While the non-SABR voters will surely put him first, I assume most/all of them will put Trout 2nd. But the reverse isn’t necessarily true. A SABR voter might put Verlander and/or Cano ahead of Cabrera. Or even Beltre.