Thursday game notes (getting down to cases edition)

Nationals 7, @Phillies 3: “Nat Gio” set a franchise record with his 21st win, and

only a party pooper would dwell on Dickey’s NL-best numbers in IP, SO, QS and QS%, Game Score Average, CG, SHO, IP/GS, and being nice to kittens.

  • Bryce Harper‘s late surge — 27 Runs in his last 28 games — gives him a shot to be the 2nd teen to tally 100 times. Seven more would pass Buddy Lewis for the record. He’s already tied Lewis for the under-20 mark of 240 Total Bases, and also owns the teen season mark of 53 extra-base hits. He’s 5 away from Rusty‘s 59 walks.

Dodgers 8, @Padres 4: It happens every time — you IBB a guy with first base open and 2 outs, then you hit the next 2 batters, and before the inning’s done, 4 runs are home.

  • First time since 2006 that each side had an RBI HBP.
  • Bobby Abreu stole his 399th base. His season high is 40. Out of 104 players with at least 300 SB since 1901, only 5 have a lower max: Vada Pinson (32 max, 305 career); Derek Jeter (34, 348), Reggie Sanders (36, 304), Andre Dawson (39, 314), and Larry Bowa (39, 318). Five others peaked at 40, including Willie Mays (338).
  • Last 20 games for Hanley: .225 BA, no HRs, 4 Runs, 3 RBI, 1 walk, 26 Ks. Hitch your wagon to a star!

@Giants 7, Diamondbacks 3: Barry’s backers barrel on! For the first time as a Giant, Barry Zito has won 4 straight starts, bringing his record to 14-8 despite a career-worst 84 ERA+. He can thank a run-support rate that’s 3rd in the NL (5.8 runs per 27 outs while he’s in the game). A 6-run 2nd did the trick last night, capped with a 2-run shot by Marco Scutaro. He’s hitting .406 in September, with 21 Runs and 21 Ribs in 23 games, and .365 in 56 G for SF.

  • Scutaro would be the 2nd Giant since 1930 to bat .360+ with at least 250 PAs.
  • ABs with men in scoring position this year: Scutaro, 153; Ryan Braun, 134; Josh Hamilton, 130; Edwin Encarnacion, 105.
  • Buster Posey is your new title-eligible BA leader in the NL. He would be the 2nd SF Giant ever to win the crown, and the 3rd Giant since 1930. He also nosed ahead of McCutchen in the OPS+ race.
  • When Ryan Vogelsong toes the slab tonight, the Giants will become the 9th team ever to have 5 guys make 30 starts. SF’s regular rotation has started all but 2 games, and Cincinnati’s all but 1; every other team has at least one 6th man with 5+ starts.

@Rangers 9, Athletics 7: Oakland bashed 5 HRs, but Texas grabbed a 5-0 lead in the 1st and matched Oakland’s rallies in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th, until the A’s (despite 3 solos in the 8th) finally ran out of time. Travis Blackley was knocked out early for the 2nd game in a row, giving 2 first-inning HRs.

  • Matt Harrison labored through 6 for his 18th win, first Ranger to that mark since 2004.
  • The A’s lost with 5 HRs for the first time since this 17-16 Arlington slugfest in the heyday of you-know-what.
  • The 4-game split left Texas 4 games up with 6 to play, the last 3 set for the East Bay.

@Tigers 5, Royals 4: Detroit squandered Doug Fister’s record feat when Joaquin Benoit put too much meat on the Country Breakfast platter. But Prince Fielder, who was erased at the plate in the first, sneaked a hustle double to start the ninth, and with a little helped kicked in by KC’s fifth error, the Bengals celebrated the end of their home schedule on a 4-game spree to finish at 50-31, the most home wins in MLB to date.

  • Through 7 scoreless frames, Fister threw 60 strikes in 82 pitches, allowing just 1 hit as he sought his 2nd straight shutout. But in the 8th he wilted — 4 hits, 3 runs, the last set up by Avila’s passed ball, drew KC close enough for Butler’s blow to matter.
  • Detroit is 11-4 against the Royals, with 3 to come — but in KC, where they were swept a month ago.

Rays 3, @White Sox 2: When last they played, a 3-game series at May’s end, Chicago rode a 5-game wave that would reach 9, sweeping through Tampa Bay into the Central lead; they hadn’t been 2 games from first since then. But the Rays’ Revival Tour came to the South Side on Thursday, and when Adam Dunn swung through Fernando Rodney‘s change-up, the Sox were drooping ’round Detroit’s spiked feet, while Tampa’s 8th straight win had them at 86-70, 2 games from a wild card — exactly where they were at this point last year.

Save for a few particulars — one “No. 1.5” right-hander squeezed an extra inning from his 117 pitches, the other summoned up two timely double plays — the sides were level to the 9th; each scratched in turn in stanzas four and five. Then Longo got enough of Brett Myers‘s slider, and then came Rodney and the bull’s-eye shot. He ran his latest daisy chain to 16.2 IP while setting a new franchise mark with his 46th save.

  • What’s that you say? You’ve never seen a scoring balk o’erturned?
  • But surely, then, you’ve seen this one: from stolen base, to flyout, then to DP on appeal, all in a few short but mistaken steps.
  • Chicago has lost 7 of 8, dropping 5 games in the tables. Three more against the Rays, then off to Cleveland.

@Blue Jays 6, Yankees 0: Brett Lawrie hit his first longball in 2 months, Double-E tried out the Atkins Diet (3 ribs, no taters, first time this year), and Brandon Morrow painted seven ovals on the scoreboard, trimming New York’s Eastern lead to 1 as Baltimore rested.

  • The Jays last blanked the Yanks a year ago, with Morrow on the hill.
  • Interesting contrast: ESPN.com’s sidebar read “Escobar booed in first home game since slur.” The lead said “a smattering of boos.” Yankees’ announcer Michael Kay pointedly observed an absence of boos, while noting that the crowd was sparse enough that any vocal opinions should have been easily heard.

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Hard times for the hangers-on:

@Reds 2, Brewers 1: Agony for the Crew. With a 1-0 lead in the 9th, John Axford got the first two on strikes, then yielded a tying HR on the first pitch to Todd Frazier, a single by Jay Bruce, and — after three full-count fouls — Dioner Navarro‘s game-winning gapper.

  • Navarro’s hit is a triple in the box score. Hunh? He had barely touched 2nd base when Bruce scored. See rule 10.06(f).

Mariners 9, @Angels 4: Sometimes momentum is only as good as tomorrow’s relief pitchers. Trailing 3-2 after 6, any Haloed hopes of repeating Wednesday’s walk-off imploded along with the bullpen that allowed 6 runs in the last 3 frames.

  • John Jaso homered and doubled to boost his 141 OPS+. He would be the first Mariner since 2005 at 140+ in at least 300 PAs.
  • Mike Trout went 4-0-0-0 with a walk, now hitting .247 with 4 RBI in 24 September games.

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@Mets 6, Pirates 5: Win #20 was no cakewalk for R.A. Dickey, even though Pittsburgh’s plunge from contention had been cemented with Wednesday’s shutout loss. Dickey fanned 13 in 7.2 IP in the home finale, becoming the 4th Met ever to reach 220 Ks, but was bedeviled by former teammate Rod Barajas, who belted a long double and a HR in his first two trips. Travis Snider used the chain-link fence to steal a HR from Mike Baxter at a stunning altitude, the greatest catch I’ve witnessed live since Endy ’06. But David Wright broke a tie in the 5th with a 3-run blast that escaped Snider’s sphere of influence, and that lead withstood even the typical 4-outs, 2-runs performance of New York’s leaky pen.

  • Dickey’s latest streak — 8 games of more than 6 innings while yielding 3 runs or less — is the longest by a Met since Ron Darling ran off 12 to start the ’88 campaign (Dickey’s feat matched by Bobby Jones ’97 and Dwight Gooden ’90).
  • Mets are 22-10 in Dickey’s starts, 50-74 otherwise.
  • Others with their first 20-win season at age 37 and up: Mike Mussina (39), Jamie Moyer (38), David Wells and George McConnell (37).
  • I guess someone’s selling “vintage” Mets jerseys — I saw “GROTE” and “KINGMAN” in today’s crowd.
  • Pedro Alvarez added 3 to the Pirates strikeout mark he set on Wednesday.

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None of the AL home-run leaders tallied; Hamilton (43) still leads by 1 over Cabrera and Encarnacion, with Dunn and Granderson each another step in back. Cabrera (1-4, .327) leads idle Mauer (.323) and hitless Trout (.320) in batting, and tops Hamilton by 8 in RBI.

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Mark in Sydney
Mark in Sydney
12 years ago

And the Nats win 7-4 over the Phillies on an average performance from Gio. But it is win #21. And I suspect that number will give him the NL Cy Young, creating another travesty. But isn’t that what the awards are all about?

mosc
mosc
12 years ago
Reply to  Mark in Sydney

I really do believe the voters have learned a great deal. They voted for a 13 win King Felix. I do believe ERA+ will at least register to the vast majority of voters.

deal
12 years ago
Reply to  Mark in Sydney

it was 7-3 Nats. yeah I am being that guy. mostly because I am bitter Phils never really came close to scoring a 4th run much less 8. Nats pitching got first batter out in all 9 innings. Gio struggled in 1st and 2nd but then settled in to get thru 6. some game pix here http://phungo.blogspot.com/2012/09/snapshots-2012-09-27-nationals-7.html Including some freeloader goes by Strasburg and apparently got himself a seat on the team plane. Its not in the box but does anyone have issue with Werth Attempted steal up 4 in the 9th. I don’t think it is an issue, but… Read more »

mosc
mosc
12 years ago
Reply to  deal

The no steals rule to me is always 6 and that’s only in the last third of the game. I guess my number for no steals would be:

1st: up by 12
2nd: up by 11
3rd: up by 10
4th: up by 9
5th: up by 8
6th: up by 7
7th: up by 6
8th: up by 6
9th: up by 6

Lawrence Azrin
Lawrence Azrin
12 years ago
Reply to  deal

Something similar happened in a Red Sox/Devil rays game c.2000 or 2001(?) – it wasn’t a SB attempt; the Red Sox had a really big lead but they were still running the bases aggressively, taking the extra base to score a run, that sort of thing. The Devil Rays objected to this, and a beanball war broke out over the next several games the two clubs played, with Brian Daubach being the most obvious target. The ironic thing is that the very next game they played, the Red Sox also got out to a big lead, but stopped playing aggresively,… Read more »

Lawrence Azrin
Lawrence Azrin
12 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

OK, I definitely exaggerated by saying “got out to a big lead” – the Red Sox were ahead only 4-0 in the 4th inning – but the top game you listed is definitely the one I am referring to. On July 23rd, 2002 the Red Sox completely blew out the TB-DR’s 22-4; they scored 10 in the 3rd inning and 6 in the 4th inning, to make it 16-0 after four. They continued to take the extra bases,and scored 6 more runs total, in the 6th, 7th, and 8th innings. In the night cap of this doubleheader, the Sox got… Read more »

Jacob
Jacob
12 years ago

Thanks, John. I’d like to take the opportunity to come out of the woodwork and identify myself as a long-suffering Tigers fan. Didn’t have the guts before, but the lead over the ChiSox seems pretty safe now, doesn’t it? Speaking of (ex-)Tigers and ChiSox, has anybody noticed that Curtis Granderson is slowly morphing into… Adam Dunn, that outlier par excellence? ’12 Grandy: 227/316/481, 40 HR, 97 RBI, 4.3 P/PA, 5 GIDP ’12 Donkey: 208/338/481, 41 HR, 94 RBI, 4.4 P/PA, 8 GIDP Sure, Granderson still has some extra triples and steals, but not as much as you may think from… Read more »

Bill Johnson
Bill Johnson
12 years ago
Reply to  Jacob

Da-n it Jacob, don’t jinx this thing. There is plenty to worry about for Tigers fans as we go on the road.

Jacob
Jacob
12 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

True, ’07 was the anomaly.

There’s more, by the way. Granderson’s 2Bs are way down, too – he has only 17 doubles, against 40 HRs. (Another similarity with Dunn, who has 19 doubles.)

I find this pretty strange; this type of low-2B, high-HR power is typical for a McGwire-esque lumbering slugger… Except that Granderson is a svelte CF.

I don’t have a PI subscription, otherwise I’d prove the strangeness of it all.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
12 years ago
Reply to  Jacob

If Granderson ends the season with fewer than 100 RBI he would join Mantle as the only Yankee with more than 40 HR and fewer than 100 RBI.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
12 years ago
Reply to  Jacob

There have been 27 occasions of more than 40 HR and fewer than 20 doubles. In addition to Mantle and Maris, Hank Aaron, Willie Mays, Ed Mathews and David Justice have done it.

Jacob
Jacob
12 years ago

Thanks, guys. You know more than I do. I was looking for strangeness in all the wrong places.

Ed
Ed
12 years ago

Here’s a Granderson question though I have no idea if it can be searched via the PI. I suspect not thought you PI wizards continually prove me wrong.

In 2007 Granderson had a combined total of 61 doubles and triples. This year he has a combined total of 21. Anyone ever have that kind of doubles/triples dropoff (or improvement) before?

Lawrence Azrin
Lawrence Azrin
12 years ago

@32 (doubles + triples) – Hank Geeenberg between 1937 and 1938 –

1937: 49 2B, 14 3B = 63
1938: 23 2B, 04 3B = 27

In 1939 he went back to a kind of median to those two, 42 2B and 7 3B, very close to his 162 G average (44/8).

JDV
JDV
12 years ago

Gotta use this forum to share an item I’ve put on the suggestion board. I’ll call it old school standings. Instead of talking about division and wildcard races, take a look at what the AL standings would be right now if this were a good, old-fashioned pennant race…unprecedented. Yes, of course I have deleted the exhibitions, aka interleague games. If only….

With 6 games remaining:

Athletics (78-60) _
Orioles (78-60) _
Rangers (78-60) _
Rays (77-61) 1
Yankees (77-61) 1

mosc
mosc
12 years ago
Reply to  JDV

The Oriels, Yankees, and Rays all play each other too much for the old style pennant race. If you give them more games against the central teams and less against the eastern teams, all 3 would shoot up the list.

JDV
JDV
12 years ago
Reply to  mosc

The unbalanced schedule certainly skews any effort to present league standings, but not necessarily for the reason you cite. The Orioles, Yankees, and Rays are a combined 58-48 (.547) against the Central Division, while the Athletics and Rangers are a combined 52-34 (.605) against the East Division.

JDV
JDV
12 years ago

Important points John. See my #9 regarding imbalance. I threw this up there this Fall, not only because of the tight numbers, but also because the impending interleague expansion will make such a presentation pointless in years ahead. I’m all for a return to balanced schedules, but it will never happen under this commissioner, and probably never again, period. Regarding in-season trades, which I despise anyway, it’s impossible to assess. Actually, your point helps make my point on that matter. How foolish would either of those deals have been for teams still capable of securing the league’s best record with… Read more »

birtelcom
Editor
12 years ago

One way to form a “division neutral” set of standings would be to compress each team’s record against its own division rivals by multiplying its wins and losses against those rivals by a fraction that is (the number of games it plays against another division)/(the number of games it plays against its own division). So for example, you would give the Yanks, O’s and Rays credit for only about half the wins and half the losses they’ve had against their AL East rivals, since they play about twice as many intra-division games as they do against teams from each of… Read more »

Doug
Doug
12 years ago

Some notes from Wednesday’s Oriole homer-fest against Toronto. Baltimore had seven HR for the game, the 77th time since 1918 with 7+ HR, but only the 9th time with twelve hits or less. The lowest hit total for 7+ HR is 11 hits, done 4 times, most recently on 2004-08-08 by the Tigers, in a losing effort against Boston. The Red Sox had 8 HR on only 11 hits, on 1977-07-04 against Toronto. Of the 77 games with 7+ HR, only two have come in losses, both times by the Tigers, in the game noted above and on 1995-05-28 against… Read more »

Doug
Editor
12 years ago

Re: John Jaso Not likely to happen but, if Jaso plays out the season at C, there could be as manay as 6 players at 140 OPS+ (min. 300 PA) and playing at least half-time at C. No other season has had more than 4 catchers do this. The other catchers this year are Mauer, Ruiz and Posey, with Yadier Molina fractionally under 140, and Jonathan Lucroy at 137. The other years with 4 catchers were 2000 (Piazza, I-Rod, Charles Johnson, Todd Hundley) and 1993 (Piazza, Mike Stanley, Chris Hoiles, Rick Wilkins). Of the 93 seasons since 1901 currently fitting… Read more »

Dalton Mack
Editor
12 years ago
Reply to  Doug

Also: Jaso is 7th in the AL in WPA (for hitters)……say what?

mosc
mosc
12 years ago
Reply to  Dalton Mack

Which is why wpa is a useless stat for evaluating anything beyond 1 game…

mosc
mosc
12 years ago
Reply to  mosc

WPA tells a very jaded picture of baseball where hitters can hit home runs and have days, where relief pitchers can get more value on one pitch than 8 2/3rds scoreless work from the starter, where not just your teammates performance but also your opponents performance can color your own. It’s great for pointing out the big plays of the game. Probably the ideal tool for which pitches to show on sports center. It probably has it’s uses for calculating some type of “clutch” number relative to that player’s general average performance but as for a player accumulated stat to… Read more »

bstar
12 years ago
Reply to  mosc

WPA is a story-telling stat. It’s really meant to inform us about which plays in the game were the most meaningful towards the impact of the game. I don’t think it was ever meant to be looked at from a yearly leader standpoint. Look at the leaders in WPA. Are we meant to believe Joey Votto has been a more productive player than Posey, Braun, or McCutchen? Has Josh Willingham been a better hitter than Trout, Cabrera, or Josh H? If not, what is the value in looking at who is actually leading the league in this category? Is it… Read more »

Doug
Doug
12 years ago
Reply to  mosc

Ironically, Jaso’s biggest WPA game this year (0.595) came in a 1 for 5 game that the Mariners lost. http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHA/CHA201208240.shtml Seattle scored 6 in the 9th to take a 1-run lead, but the bullpen gave it up in the bottom of the inning. Jaso’s big hit came with Seattle down a run, 2 outs and runners on the corners. A single (plus a throwing error by the right-fielder) was all it took to score 2 runs and advance Seattle’s winning chances from 18% to 83%. Similarly, Paul Konerko picked up a cool 0.710 WPA+ for a single with runners on… Read more »

Doug
Editor
12 years ago

Re: Double-E’s big year

Encarnacion is only the 11th player with a career (so far) having one or more 40+ HR seasons, but no other 30+ HR seasons. Joins an interesting collection of names.
– Brady Anderson
– Carl Yastrzemski
– Davey Johnson
– Jay Buhner
– Jesse Barfield
– Johnny Mize
– Jose Bautista
– Ken Caminiti
– Richard Hidalgo
– Rico Petrocelli

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
12 years ago
Reply to  Doug

Doug: Were you able to retrieve that data by using PI alone and without using Excel spreadsheets? I could retrieve that list but only with the assistance of the spreadsheets.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
12 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

John: I did what you said but only 7 of the names came up with a 1. They are the only 7 you can be sure of. In other words if a player with 40+ HR has only 1 season in which he hit 30+ HR then obviously he had no seasons with 30-39 HR. For the other 123 players a judgment cannot be made. Or perhaps I did something wrong.

bstar
12 years ago

Well, in a way, I think your list of seven might be more meaningful, Richard. It shows the guys who had one flukey year while the earlier list includes some guys (Yaz, Mize, etc.) who were clearly 30+ HR hitters but randomly never managed to hit the 30-39 range.

It remains to be seen whether this is a fluke year for EE, but I do think it’s quite unusual for his teammate Joey Bautista to be on the same list here.

Doug
Doug
12 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

Actually, not quite John. Yaz, for example has several 40+ HR seasons (not just one), but none in the 30-39 range.

I did this:
1. run search for players with 30-39 HR seasons, and save results (in two URLs)
2. run search for players with 40+ HR seasons and copy results to Excel
3. run search for players with 40+ HR seasons, filtering on each of the two saved query results. Copy each filtered search result to Excel.
4. in Excel, find players in list from step 2 not in either of the results from step 3.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
12 years ago
Reply to  Doug

Here’s what I did. 1. Ran search for players with 40+ seasons and saved report. 2.Pasted results into an Excel spreadsheet and sorted by name. 3. Used saved report and ran search for players with 30+ seasons. 4. Pasted results into the spreadsheet alongside the first list and sorted by name. Now I have two lists side by side sorted by name. Then I created a column which subtracted the years in the first list from the years in the second. That represented the number of years with 30-39 HRs. Then I sorted by that column to find the players… Read more »

mosc
mosc
12 years ago

No love for David Aardsma’s return to professional baseball? I’ll admit allowing a HR in 1IP at the losing end of a non-competitive game isn’t going to get you much press but it was nice to see the guy throw.

mosc
mosc
12 years ago
Reply to  mosc
e pluribus munu
e pluribus munu
12 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

JA, I was just scrolling through the comments before adding one to note the particularly fine quality of your Sox/Rays note when I saw this one. I feel guilty for it, but my reaction to Aardsma has always been the same. I imagine there are legions of others who harbor these unkind thoughts. We’d all feel better if the Yankees would only host Forgive Dave Aardsma Day. (Veeck would’ve thought of it.)

Jim Bouldin
Jim Bouldin
12 years ago

Eliminate divisions or weight each game by a birtelcom-type scheme.

Ed
Ed
12 years ago

Wow, Mark Trumbo just did it! His first double since July 17th. And only his second since June 13th.

Jim Bouldin
Jim Bouldin
12 years ago
Reply to  Ed

What’s your take on the firing of Acta Ed?

bstar
12 years ago
Reply to  Ed

That makes 2 doubles for Trumbo in his 345 at-bats. That’s just staggering.

For perspective, there are no players outside the deadball era who’ve had a season of 345+ at bats and only 2 doubles. Six post-deadball players have had a 4-double season of this length.

bstar
12 years ago
Reply to  bstar

in his *last* 345 at-bats.

Ed
Ed
12 years ago
Reply to  bstar

Thanks for the additional info Bstar! It’s quite odd..Trumbo had 31 doubles last year and was up to 15 or 16 this year before he just stopped hitting them.

Ed
Ed
12 years ago
Reply to  Ed

Holy crap! Trumbo’s on fire! He just doubled in back to back plate appearances.

bstar
12 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

Rather hilariously, Raffy did leg out four triples in 1988. I wonder if he actually thought about stopping at second on one occasion, just for larfs.

Ed
Ed
12 years ago

I wasn’t a fan of hiring Acta so I have no problem seeing him be let go. That said, the Indians problems run far deeper than Acta. The people in charge of the draft did a horrible job for years, which left the minor league system basically empty (there are supposed to be some decent prospects in the low minors but no one that will be ready to help in the next 3 years). And the prospects in the Lee and Sabathia trades generally didn’t work out. At the major league level what do they have? Five to six decent… Read more »

Ed
Ed
12 years ago
Reply to  Ed

Just to illustrate how bad the Indians’ drafting was for a long stretch, here are the career WAR’s for their first round picks from 2000-2007. Players with no numbers never reached the majors. Derek Thompson 0.2 Corey Smith Mike Conroy J.D. Martin 0.6 Alan Horne Dan Denham Micah Schilling Matthew Whitney Jeremy Guthrie 15.4 Adam Miller Brad Snyder -0.2 Michael Aubrey 0.2 Jeremy Sowers 1.0 Johnny Drennen Trevor Crowe -0.2 David Huff -1.3 Beau Mills That’s 17 first round picks, 9 of whom never made the majors. Of those who did, only Guthrie’s been decent but all his WAR came… Read more »

Ed
Ed
12 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

Oh it gets worse. Starting with 1990, the Indians have drafted exactly 2 players who have more than Guthrie’s 15.4 career WAR. Granted those two were Manny Ramirez and CC Sabathia. And I’m not just talking first round here. I’m talking the whole freaking draft. You think they would have gotten lucky somewhere along the line with a lower round pick. But no. (technically they did draft Tim Lincecum in the 14th round but they weren’t able to sign him)

bstar
12 years ago
Reply to  Ed

Ed, Acta was pegged as being one of the few managers with sabermetric leanings when he was hired.

Did this ever show up in his managing as far as strategy decisions or lineup construction goes? Or was he so talent-strapped that he never had a chance to demonstrate his potentially different views of the game?

Ed
Ed
12 years ago
Reply to  bstar

Well he was no Joe Maddon, I can tell you that much. One of the things that used to irritate me is that he would continually start Lou Marson (backup catcher) against right handed pitchers, even though Marson can’t hit righties. The most bizarre example was last year. He started Marson against a righty, the third game after the all-star break. Why? Santana just had several days off, he could hardly have needed a day off from catching. Why not wait till a lefties’ on the mound to start Marson? The other odd thing is that he used Jose Lopez… Read more »

Jim Bouldin
Jim Bouldin
12 years ago
Reply to  Ed

It seems to be the consensus that the lack of willingness to spend and/or inability to draft well has really hurt the team. I don’t even remember who they got for Sabathia and Lee, but if it wasn’t *a lot* then that’s got to hurt as well. The descent of Jimenez obviously hurts–not sure anybody could have predicted that based on what he did before they got him, and the losses of Tomlin and Carmona didn’t help anything either. I still like the core of the position players, especially Kipnis, Cabrera, Brantley and Choo. With Sanatana as well, the team… Read more »

Ed
Ed
12 years ago
Reply to  Jim Bouldin

The key to the Sabathia trade was Matt LaPorta, a power hitting first baseman. He flamed out and is unlikely to be back next year. Brantley was also part of that trade and he’s turned out to be a useful player. And Rob Bryson, a reliever, is still in the minors but has some upside. Jason Knapp was supposed to be the key to the Lee trade but he struggled with injuries and was released earlier this year. They did get a backup catcher (Marson), a futility infielder (Donald) and a potential starting pitcher (Carrasco) who’s been hurt all year.… Read more »

Jim Bouldin
Jim Bouldin
12 years ago
Reply to  Ed

Personally I like Acta. Seems to have a good head on his shoulders and understands the game, and a very straight shooter. I’d take him over Leyland without a second thought.

Ed
Ed
12 years ago
Reply to  Jim Bouldin

BTW, here’s an article with some Acta SABR info.

“Nothing annoys the average blogger more than a sacrifice bunt, but Cleveland fans haven’t had much cause for complaint. Acta’s Indians have attempted 15 fewer this season than the next-most sac-averse team. They’ve issued the ninth-fewest intentional walks. And while we can’t necessarily attribute the platoon advantage to Acta, Indians batters have faced same-handed pitchers in a lower percentage of their plate appearances than any other team.”

Whole article is worth a read:

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=18483

Jim Bouldin
Jim Bouldin
12 years ago
Reply to  Ed

Good article, pretty much mirroring my view.

If I’m the Red Sox, I’m on the phone to him right now.

Ed
Ed
12 years ago

Congrats to Homer Bailey for the 7th no hitter this year!

Jim Bouldin
Jim Bouldin
12 years ago

That catch by Snider was truly spectacular, one of the best I’ve ever seen. Great that you got to see that live. However, not the smartest idea to put a cleated shoe into a chain-link fence at high speed either.