Best and Worst Ballparks for No-Hitters

Since the Mets finally got over the hump to record a no-hitter last week, the question has been “What took them so long?” After all, they have had no shortage of capable pitchers over the years, including several who had no-hitters for other teams, Nolan Ryan, Tom Seaver, Dwight Gooden, David Cone and Al Leiter among them.

But, actually, it’s a lot more than several – 16 pitchers who have played for the Mets have thrown no-hitters for another team or teams, but not for the Mets. So, why is that? After the jump, I’ll take a look at ballparks and see what (if anything) might be learned.

First off, here is that list of one-time Mets who tossed a no-hitter elsewhere, ordered by years as a Met.

Rk   Yrs From To Age  
1 Tom Seaver 12 1967 1983 22-38 Ind. Seasons
2 Dwight Gooden 11 1984 1994 19-29 Ind. Seasons
3 Al Leiter 7 1998 2004 32-38 Ind. Seasons
4 David Cone 7 1987 2003 24-40 Ind. Seasons
5 Nolan Ryan 5 1966 1971 19-24 Ind. Seasons
6 Bret Saberhagen 4 1992 1995 28-31 Ind. Seasons
7 Mike Scott 4 1979 1982 24-27 Ind. Seasons
8 Don Cardwell 4 1967 1970 31-34 Ind. Seasons
9 Philip Humber 2 2006 2007 23-24 Ind. Seasons
10 Scott Erickson 1 2004 2004 36-36 Ind. Seasons
11 Kenny Rogers 1 1999 1999 34-34 Ind. Seasons
12 Hideo Nomo 1 1998 1998 29-29 Ind. Seasons
13 John Candelaria 1 1987 1987 33-33 Ind. Seasons
14 Dock Ellis 1 1979 1979 34-34 Ind. Seasons
15 Dean Chance 1 1970 1970 29-29 Ind. Seasons
16 Warren Spahn 1 1965 1965 44-44 Ind. Seasons
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 6/6/2012.

Interesting list of pitchers. Admittedly, many played for the Mets only briefly, but others were Mets for the largest and best parts of their careers. But, was it just being a Met? Or, did visiting teams also have trouble pitching no-hitters against the Mets? 

In the tables that follow, I’m showing common names for major league parks (whose names now change with regularity). The statistics presented are for the entire history of the ballpark, even if major renovations or re-configurations have occurred. Also, for the earliest ballparks, I’m not guaranteeing I have all of them, but I do believe most are shown.

No-hitter data, by the way, come from Retrosheet’s no-hitter log, and ballpark data from www.ballparks.com

So, here are no-hitters thrown in the Mets home ballparks.

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So, doesn’t appear there have been many no-hitters thrown against the Mets at home. But, are there any parks that have been worse? Well, here are the ballparks since 1901 where a no-hitter has never been thrown.

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So, there you have it. Forbes Field is the toughest place to pitch a no-hitter, hands down. But, Shea Stadium doesn’t seem too far behind as only Forbes Field on this list was in service longer than the average time between no-hitters at Shea.

And, here are the rest, sorted by the average time between no-hitters for each ballpark. You can scroll through or sort and search this table according to your preferences.

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As was suspected, Shea is among the toughest parks in which to pitch a no-hitter, placing near the bottom on this list in average time between no-hitters.

Surprises:

  • Only one no-hitter in 59 seasons of play at Griffith Stadium, usually regarded as a pitcher-friendly ballpark.
  • More no-hitters at Fenway (definitely a hitters park) than at any other ballpark

Not so surprising:

  • Astrodome, Oakland Coliseum and Dodger Stadium all near the top of the list
  • Wrigley Field, Baker Bowl and Camden Yards near the bottom of the list

Finally, how do the Mets rank compared to other teams.

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So, now that the Mets are off the schneid, only the Padres are still looking for their first no-hitter. In terms of no-hitter frequency relative to seasons, the Astros and Angels are on top.

 

 

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kzuke
kzuke
12 years ago

i feel like no-hitters are too infrequent/random to be analyzed using this method. i think a better method would be to simply compare h/9 for visiting pitchers

Doug
Doug
12 years ago
Reply to  kzuke

Agree.

This was meant more as a curiosity than a serious study.

e pluribus munu
e pluribus munu
12 years ago

kzuke has a point – the number of events is a small one – but the absolute numbers Doug has amassed over a long period seems adequate to reveal systematic differentials. Moreover, the issue may not have a direct correlation to average hits, since the dynamics of a no-hitter’s last three innings are generally quite different from an ordinary game. A complete bell curve for each park would probably tell us something new – I don’t suppose there are many of those hanging around ready-made. Why would cavernous Griffith Stadium, home of so many weak hitting home teams, be a… Read more »

Chris
12 years ago

Out of curiosity, who threw the home no-hitter at Shea Stadium?

Hub Kid
Hub Kid
12 years ago
Reply to  Doug

I saw that too, my guess was that it was a Yankee pitcher from the two years that the Yankees “borrowed” Shea as their home stadium (1974 or 1975), although, of course, it turns out that none of them pitched a no hitter in those years. Incidentally, the Mets were no hit by Ed Halicki of the Giants 6-0 on August 24, 1975. This isn’t to draw attention to the glitch, because this is great work and these are nifty tables by Doug. I wanted to draw attention to the amusing fact that the Yankees played two seasons home at… Read more »

Evil Squirrel
12 years ago

There have only been two no hitters thrown in the city of St. Louis since the Browns left town at the end of the 1953 season, and they were both tossed by Bob Forsch.

Those two Forsch no-hitters are the only two the Cardinals have been involved in one way or the other in a home game since 1923…

Of course, there was also this game, which throws a monkey wrench in what would have been a long, long current streak of consecutive home games with a hit by the Cardinals:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SLN/SLN198404212.shtml

Doug
Doug
12 years ago
Reply to  Evil Squirrel

The Cardinals’ Bob Gibson threw the first no-hitter in Three Rivers Stadium, in the Pirates’ first full season there, and after not having a no-hitter thrown in the city of Pittsburgh in the entire history of Forbes Field.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/PIT/PIT197108140.shtml

donburgh
donburgh
12 years ago

You better add to the total for Safeco Field. Six pitchers no hit the Dodgers 1-0.

Doug
Doug
12 years ago
Reply to  donburgh

Thanks for the update. Will do.

nightfly
12 years ago
Reply to  donburgh

Is that a record for the most pitchers involved in a single no-hit game?

Doug
Doug
12 years ago
Reply to  nightfly

It ties the record.

Six pitchers were also used by Houston when they no-hit the Yankees on June 11, 2003.

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/2003/B06110NYA2003.htm

Must be something about interleague play. 🙂

nightfly
12 years ago
Reply to  Doug

Thanks, Doug. I used the PI but couldn’t find an answer. Forgot about the Houston game, for some reason I remember that as a four-pitcher game. I’ve got a memory like one of those big grey things with the long nose.

Richard Chester
Richard Chester
12 years ago
Reply to  Doug

Doug:
By using PI and Excel spreadsheets I found 10 games that were shared no-hitters. 2 games had 6 pitchers, 2 games had 4 pitchers, 1 game had 3 pitchers and 5 games had 2 pitchers. Did you do a similar search?

Doug
Doug
12 years ago

I just scanned the list of no-hitters on retrosheet.